I WISH the shorty ak model still ran for 850.00, then i could actually get most of my money back as it is, because that's what i payed, nowadays they can be found for 650, and even with all the money i've sunken into it in accessories, i can't get out of it the same price i payed for the rifle alone. I wasn't sure on the price of the poly tech rifles. the trade's accessories seemed to work out but i didn't want to get E-SCr*wed on the rifle. the actually karstin the bushmaster shoots fine, i just never fell in love with the action. I guess i'm more of an m-1a kind of guy. (ps anyone want to buy the dang thing it's on the for sale board, if you don't like my price, make an offer, i'm tired of being jerked around with half assed trade offers, though the ak is one of the better ones i recieved. would you beleive someone actually offered me a bushmaster shorty, non ak model with one magazine, finish all scratched, no accessories barrel shot all to hell for an even swap!