Is this a bad thing to do to a 1911 type?

Jamie Young

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I have a Colt 1991 with 8rd mags. I loaded it up and put one round in the chamber and then slapped an 8rd magazine into it. I've never heard of anyone putting 8+1 into a 1911 type? Is this a good idea or am I putting too much stress on the magazine?

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I dont see any problem with it. It sounds like a good way to take advantage of the 8 round magazine.

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Ed
 
What you do is load the mag and insert it into the gun... Cycle the slide to chamber a round. Remove the magazine and top it off...

This is a little longer of a procedure - but you'll let your extractor live a lot longer.
 
Yeah, what George said. That the way I load/carry mine.



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Schmit
GySgt, USMC(Ret)
NRA Life, Lodge 1201-UOSSS
"Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"
 
Originally posted by George Hill:
What you do is load the mag and insert it into the gun... Cycle the slide to chamber a round. Remove the magazine and top it off...

This is a little longer of a procedure - but you'll let your extractor live a lot longer.


The reason I posted this was because I think I might have ruined my factory 7rd mag because I was slapping it into the gun when a round was already chambered and bent up the follower.
 
If you did bend it while loading the round in the mag may not have been seated properly... The method I described is the generally accepted method for all automatic handguns.
 
I only have a 7 round mag for my 45 (for now) and I carry it with 7 + 1. I say go for it. :-)
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PreserveFreedom:
I only have a 7 round mag for my 45 (for now) and I carry it with 7 + 1. I say go for it. :-)[/quote]

I have a 10-round extended mag for my 1911, and chamber one then top up for 11. I admit the extended mag looks odd and is awkward and would snag on anything if I used it for carry, which I don't.
 
My question would be, what effect does this have on the follower spring in the clip. Will it maintain its tension and feed the rest of the bullets properly if left that way a long time?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OkieGentleman:
My question would be, what effect does this have on the follower spring in the clip. Will it maintain its tension and feed the rest of the bullets properly if left that way a long time?[/quote]

Like I stated before I was not sure if pushing an 8rd magazine into a gun with a closed chamber would put too much stress on the magazine. I can feel the magazine spring push in the bullets a little bit further and I was not sure if that was a bad thing to do?
 
Soda Pop---
I've been loading Government Models plumb full with the old style seven round magazines for 36 years with no mag damage traceable to that practice. This includes about five years of intensive IPSC competition. I don't think there's been a day since that I didn't have at least one fully loaded .45 somewhere at home, even when I was out of the country. I know several REALLY old guys who have been using them that way for longer still.

I've only been using the eight round mags for the past nine years or so--Same result. One caution--It is not a good practice to seat a magazine halfway and then give it a big smack with heel of the hand to drive it home. It might bend feed lips. This is NOT the same thing as a brisk speed load.

Magazine feed lips should probably be inspected for proper tension every year or so.

I further second what George Hill and Schmidt wrote about proper way to load chamber. I chipped a couple of extractors before someone taught me the right way to do it.

Best,
RR

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The thing that compresses springs in mags is to load them and store them forever. You should unload your mag and rotate it with another regularly -- couple times a month.
 
A good spring will last for several years fully loaded. I accidently kept 5 ShootingStar mags loaded with 8 rounds for almost 4 years and they still work great. I heard of 1911 mags being kept loaded (old 7 round mags) for over 20 years and they still worked fine.
 
Contrary to what Jack Flash wrote, spring life is rated by number of cycles rather than compression time. In other words, they will start to fatigue after a certain amount of use. Time spent compressed is almost irrelevant.

My buddy bought a 1911 from a widow which had been stored along with 2 fully loaded magazines in her attic since her late husband returned from WWII. Those magazines had been fully loaded for over 50 years!!
We took the gun out and inserted a magazine, chambered a round and squeezed the trigger. BOOM! It worked perfectly and chambered the next round.
Both magazines worked fine until the very last round, which they both failed to chamber. Not bad for springs kept compressed for over 50 years.
 
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