(b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell or deliver—
(1) any firearm or ammunition to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than eighteen years of age, and, if the firearm, or ammunition is other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or rifle, to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than twenty-one years of age;
(x)
(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer to a person who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe is a juvenile—
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.
(5) For purposes of this subsection, the term “juvenile” means a person who is less than 18 years of age.
(6) for any person in connection with the acquisition or attempted acquisition of any firearm or ammunition from a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, knowingly to make any false or fictitious oral or written statement or to furnish or exhibit any false,
fictitious, or misrepresented identification, intended or likely to deceive such importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector with respect to any fact material to the lawfulness of the sale or other disposition of such firearm or ammunition under the provisions of this chapter;
(b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell or deliver -
(1) any firearm or ammunition to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than eighteen years of age, and, if the firearm, or ammunition is other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or rifle, to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable
cause to believe is less than twenty-one years of age;
1. a. As used in this act, "handgun ammunition" means ammunition specifically designed to be used only in a handgun. "Handgun ammunition" shall not include blank ammunition, air gun pellets, flare gun ammunition, nail gun ammunition, paint ball ammunition, or any non-fixed ammunition.
b.No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of, or receive, purchase, or otherwise acquire handgun ammunition unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder is licensed as a manufacturer, wholesaler, or dealer under this chapter or is the holder of and possesses a valid firearms purchaser identification card, a valid copy of a permit to purchase a handgun, or a valid permit to carry a handgun and first exhibits such card or permit to the seller, donor, transferor or assignor.
c.No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of handgun ammunition to a person who is under 21 years of age.
Of course you can you can use a strawman to purchase anything. If I give my kid $5 to go buy me a soda it's a straw purchase.Is there such thing as straw purchasing ammo?
Is a different question. look's like from vranasaurus' post it is Illegal.Legal?
But this isn't the issue... The legal age to buy ammo is 18 for rifle and shotgun ammo and 21 to buy handgun ammo...Would you buy alcohol for a 18 year old if the drinking age were 21?
So I can't buy handgun ammo for an 18-year old from an FFL, IF he asks me if the ammo is for my own use. But in over 60 years wandering this planet, I have never had ANYONE from whom I was buying ammo ask that question.vranasaurus said:18 USC 922 a(6) states:
(6) for any person in connection with the acquisition or attempted acquisition of any firearm or ammunition from a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, knowingly to make any false or fictitious oral or written statement or to furnish or exhibit any false,
fictitious, or misrepresented identification, intended or likely to deceive such importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector with respect to any fact material to the lawfulness of the sale or other disposition of such firearm or ammunition under the provisions of this chapter;
If they ask you if the ammunition is for you and you say yes but you intend to give it to someone else then yes you can committ a straw purchase of ammunition.
Understood. But, first there's no 4473, so any such statement (while false) would not be made under oath. Second ... as I commented above, I'm a senior citizen, and in all my years of buying ammo I have NEVER been asked if the ammo was for my own use. If nobody asks the question, I don't have to lie.vranasaurus said:The crime is not necessarily a straw purchase but making false statements in connection with the purchase of firearms or ammo.
But the question that is the topic for THIS thread is not about handgun/long gun ammo, it is about buying ammo for someone else who is over 18 but younger than 21. Let's not confuse the discussion by introducing a separate question.The biggest opportunity for this crime, as it relates to ammunition purchases, to be committed is by someone 18-20 years old who tells the clerk that the ammo is for a rifle when it is really for a handgun.
vranasaurus said:...Whether or not it is a crime to give or sell handgun ammunition to someone between 18 and 21 years old depends on:
1. State Law
2. Whether you are a licensed dealer
3. Whether or not you were asked any questions about the ammunition at the time of purchase and made knowingly false statements.
This assumes that the transferee is not prohibited from possessing ammunition under state or federal law. (convicted felon, MCD, etc.)
I think we are basically on the same page, but toward the end you took a left turn off the topic. The question was about a "straw purchase" of ammunition. Pretty much by definition, that's buying ammunition for someone else. Then you brought up buying handgun ammo by someone under the age of 21 by saying it's for a long gun. Yes, that's illegal ... but it's not a straw purchase, and it doesn't relate to the topic of this thread.vranasaurus said:I merely pointed out under what circumstances the crime could occur. Whether or not those cirumstances are likely to occur is another issue.