Is there such an SBR rifle

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Is there such an SBR rifle that meet these criteria:
(1) Has an integrated suppressor that can not be separated from the rifle
(2) Overall length must be minimally 29 inches (at its shortest form).
 
Every suppressor attached by a pin and weld process would be "an integrated suppressor that can not be separated from the" barrel. A 16" barreled AR15 with the carbine stock collapsed looks to be about 30 inches. Of course, a 16+ inch barreled AR wouldn't be an SBR.
 
Even if you can find something like that, it will still be a two-stamp gun.
If you're trying to avoid a double stamp, it isn't going to work that way.
 
Frankenmauser said:
Even if you can find something like that, it will still be a two-stamp gun.
If you're trying to avoid a double stamp, it isn't going to work that way.
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If I understand this correctly, an AR upper with a 16+" barrel part of which is an integral or permanently attached suppressor would require a stamp for the suppressor, but could be used on any AR lower without a need for second stamp because it would not be an SBR.

I believe that's the idea behind the Gemtech and the Sig MDX with the enormous threaded "brake".

Tacsol took a slightly different path for 10/22 barrels -- effectively a 12" barrel with a permanently attached sleeve bringing the total length to 16" and large enough for a suppressor to fit into.
 
Exactly.
16" barrel is not an SBR unless OAL is less than 26".


So, either the OP is looking for an SBR or not an SBR.
In one case, it is not an SBR and a single stamp. In the other, it *is* an SBR and is a double stamp.


Tacsol took a slightly different path for 10/22 barrels
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As have a couple other companies.
A friend of mine told me he yesterday that he was about to order one of the TacSol SB-X barrels.
I offered only two bits of commentary/advice:
1. If the base cap gets stuck on the barrel threads, it could be a real pain to remove. (TacSol's own Ascent 22 is one of the worst designs for that.)
2. Make sure your can fits.

He sent me a message a couple hours later. "Good thing I measured. My suppressor won't even fit inside the muzzle cage."
 
. If the base cap gets stuck on the barrel threads, it could be a real pain to remove.
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I understand from suppressor guys that this happens with ordinary, not covered by sleeves, suppressors and it's no joy to deal with it even with easy access to the base cap.

I'd also share an anxiety about the Gemtech configuration. I've bought a couple of barrels in the last decade that were genuinely awful. Not mediocre, but bad enough I considered them defective.

It would be a bit heartbreaking to pay the tax generate fingerprint cards and wait, only to find out that the suppressor is an integrated part of a defective barrel.
 
I have two of the SB-X 10/22 barrels, one standard, and one take-down. My YHM Stinger works well on them and I use hi-temp anti-seize on the end cap/barrel threads. Haven't had any issues with the cap getting stuck on the barrel, but thanks for the nightmare fuel. :D
 
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