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DukeConnor

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A S&W Mp40 with a Apex trigger kit.

I have spent thousands and thousands trying to find a better shooting handgun than my m&p40 with apex trigger.
Smith 1911, great but no cigar.
A custom 1911 for huge coin, a little better than the smith. Waste of money.
3rd Gen smiith 6906, nice but dated.
A couple Springfields, good guns but no comparrison.
Juped on the CZ and SIG bandwagon. No Joy.
Shot my kids glocks. Nice but not for me.
Don't forget the revolvers.

I just keep going back to that beat up plastic piece of crap.

I think handgun preferences are very personel and individual to the shooter, more than anyother firearm. I just love that M&P.
 
I also love my M&P40. I'm waiting for the M2.0 to come with the CORE setup and then I'll replace my 40/357 with a new model.

4.25" for me with RMR.

Get yourself a factory 357 barrel from Brownells or Midway. I love mine.
 
H&K VP40 ;).

Seriously, though, it's wonderful when you can find a Goldilocks gun.

The MP40 is neat since police trades are crazy cheap. I've seen them a little under $300. Compacts are cheap too. Might be a good time to pick up a spare...

I've kind of been thinking about getting one :o.
 
My FiL got a police trade-in 40 caliber one recently.
It was inexpensive and barely worn. He likes it a lot.
 
I've never tried the Apex trigger in any of mine, but I sure do like the M&P line.

Hoping to get a 2.0 soon.
 
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I hope I don't start the fireworks a day early here:rolleyes: "IMHO" I'm not buying the gun in the first place if I don't like the trigger. If the striker-fired gun is internded for range use only I might get the urge to want to put a lighter trigger on it, but that hasn't happened yet. But if the striker gun is riding my hip I'm inclined to pretty much leave the trigger alone. I think the M&P Shield and the new M&P 2.0 both have decent triggers "OOTB" and personally I don't see the need to do the Apex on these, but "YMMV" and that is fine by me!
 
I hope I don't start the fireworks a day early here "IMHO" I'm not buying the gun in the first place if I don't like the trigger. If the striker-fired gun is internded for range use only I might get the urge to want to put a lighter trigger on it, but that hasn't happened yet. But if the striker gun is riding my hip I'm inclined to pretty much leave the trigger alone. I think the M&P Shield and the new M&P 2.0 both have decent triggers "OOTB" and personally I don't see the need to do the Apex on these, but "YMMV" and that is fine by me
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The Shield and the "Pro" trigger that is featured in the M2.0 guns are pretty good. Certainly good enough that I didn't bother to do anything to my 9mm Shield but change the sights. As for the standard (First Gen) M&P fullsize guns, I have three: 9mm, 40/357, and 45. They all have the Apex Duty/Carry kits in them and it's a huge improvement.

That said it's kind of a non issue until someone informs you your trigger sucks. As for actual shooting, my bud has a bone stock 9mm M&P and we go back and forth with no vast improvements in shooting with the Apex guns. It mainly improves the reset more than anything. (Less so in the 45, so sad) A simple polish job on the factory kit will do wonders to any M&P.

See, no fireworks here.....
 
I don't like M&P's, they don't strike my fancy in any way. And I don't like .40 caliber, but...

A buddy of mine has a M&P40 which I've shot on 3 occasions now, and as much as I love to hate on it, I shoot that pistol nearly as good as my CCW I practice with regularly.

I don't really understand it, and I'm not about to go and buy one, but I've gained a certain amount of respect for the M&P line I didn't have previously.
 
I do like the M&P .40. But, I'd have likely listed everything on your "tried list" as better. Looks like you missed the Browning Hi-Power. Good luck.
 
Several months ago I would have agreed that the M&P with an Apex trigger was at the top of the striker world with regard to trigger feel and performance. I cannot say that anymore.

Since its introduction, I have done dozens of trigger jobs on M&P's which may or may not have included Apex parts, but now that the m2.0 is here, I can say that Apex is no longer needed to achieve trigger Nirvana.

The sear of the new M&P m2.0 series is a cross between the Apex and the S&W Performance Center sears, and all that is needed to make the perfect trigger is to know where to polish... Especially the striker leg. (Only do this if you know exactly what you are doing)

I have now done 3 trigger jobs on the M&P m2.0 series pistols and what I am getting is 3.7lbs with the shortest reset ever and nearly zero over-travel. These things have to be felt to be believed.

I would not trade any of my M&P m2.0 pistols for 10 M&P 1st gen guns... I know because I've had them all.

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Footnote:The above trigger quality opinion is based on the belief that the OP was discussing more about poly/striker-fired handguns. If this discussion evolves into "Best Triggers" of any handgun, then my answer goes to the custom 1911s that I've done. But, that is another story...
 
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turtlehead,
PPQ. Out of the box. And the mag doesn't rattle around.
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I'm not sure what you mean by not rattling, because every double stack I've ever owned would have a rattle in the mag to one degree or another. I happen to be carrying a PPQ on my hip right now that would sound like a spray can of paint if I were to shake it.

It is just the nature of staggering bullets. Sometimes they stay quiet and sometimes they rattle. If I took out the mag of my PPQ right now and gave it a nice whack on the base, I might be able to settle the rounds into place for a while, but they WILL return to a noisier state over time.
 
I have an M&P 9 and it has the full APEX treatment, and while it is a great improvement over the factory trigger if I could sell it and get all my money back on it, it would be gone in a minute. I also have a Storm Lake barrel on it, and yet for me it just isn't that impressive. I love the ergo's and everything about the gun but for whatever reason it's just average for accuracy. Just my personal experience, but since similar guns are advertised for $500.00 or less fairly frequently I guess I'll just keep it.
 
Yes, Sig X-Five, Browning Hi-Power, CZ-75B with a little trigger work; Tanfoglio Stock I, 1970's Colt Gold Cup, STI 2011 custom.
 
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