Is Gore loosing steam?? Bush up 7 in this

I wouldn't bet the farm either way at this point. I think it'll be close. Bush needs to hit the upper midwest. He's got Texas and almost certainly Florida. California and New York go to the Pinkos almost automatically. The West goes to Bush and I think the South may get dicey. The true swing states are upper midwest, IMHO. Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota etc.

I'm nervous as a long tail cat in a sawmill on this one.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jack 99:
I wouldn't bet the farm either way at this point. I think it'll be close. Bush needs to hit the upper midwest. He's got Texas and almost certainly Florida. California and New York go to the Pinkos almost automatically. The West goes to Bush and I think the South may get dicey. The true swing states are upper midwest, IMHO. Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota etc.

I'm nervous as a long tail cat in a sawmill on this one.[/quote]

I wouldn't count California as a lost state yet. They DO have some good people and some activist gun owners out there fighting for their rights. Add to that that Gore (who already led in California) was only up by 13% AFTER his convention bounce (when his convention bounce nationally was around 17%) and that Gore has already lost ground on that number (Cheney is out campaigning in California now).

Bush/Cheney have a long way to go to win California; but it is possible - Gore's lead isn't firm. Bush and Cheney will need the gun owner vote to swing it in California though - and believe me, when the Assault weapons ban sunsets in 2004 - you can bet that knowing they lost/won California in 2000 due to angry gunowners will be on the minds of both parties (if it happens).

As for other battleground states, there are 16 states where both candidates are running even. These are mostly midwest states like the ones you mentioned Michigan, Ohio, Minnesota, Missouri, Indiana, etc.

If you are a gun owner in one of these states, your work may make the difference for the rest of us - encourage your buddies to get out and vote.

There's only one march that means a damn this year and it isn't the MMM, it's the one that goes down November 7th.
 
What gives with the people of Kalifornia? Aren't they fed up yet? Their taxes are outragious, their entire state is controlled by the SoCal block, what gives?

They have a chance coming up in a few months, let's hope they don't blow it.

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If Algore loses Kal, it would be because a lot of ultralibs vote Nader. Now, if they come out en masse to vote for old Ralphie for president, will they vote straight green on the rest of the ballot, or vote Democrap for other offices? I don't know, and at this point, I doubt anyone else does, either.
 
Hank,

What matters are the electoral votes. Nader could conceivably get the 5% or so in CA he's showing in the polls right now and get zero electoral votes.
 
stuckatwork,
We want out, but some of us are stuck for personal reasons.

As it is, think of us has the calvary in the last charge.

Hank/Jack,

If nadar causes Bush to get majority of votes, Bush gets the electoral votes. Gore can't win without CA, Bush can. Bush can't win without FL, Gore can. Fun ain't it. Wish I didn't have so much at stake in this race or it would be fun to watch.

FWIW: New Fox poll has Gore up 5. I don't know what Bush could do to stop momentum. Gore had Lieberman and his convention. Bush better have some pre-bought ad time to play with to help.

madison

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stuckatwork:
What gives with the people of Kalifornia? Aren't they fed up yet? Their taxes are outragious, their entire state is controlled by the SoCal block, what gives?

They have a chance coming up in a few months, let's hope they don't blow it.

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Some good news for the national front:

Here in California, one of the worst bills in memory is picking up steam despite Governor Davis's quiet but FIRM opposition: AB273.

This stinker does handgun licensing and registration, with a license linked to 8 hours of training being required to buy. And to get the license, you register everything you currently own.

Davis is already frightened of a "November backlash". AB273 is virtually guaranteed to create one, and may do so even if it gets real close without passing. The Dems have gone insane with greed; they're trying to grab too much, too fast and the frog is liable to jump out.

If those morons had held until next year, Davis would have gleefully signed this turkey. As is, he may even veto - but anyone paying attention will realize it's a shoe-in next year unless we take back the assembly this November.

As a bonus, a huge poll-rush by pissed gunnies won't exactly harm Dubya :).

Calif is 1/9th of the US population.

Jim

[This message has been edited by Jim March (edited August 26, 2000).]
 
Jack99/Madison46: I guess I wasn't clear. A strong Nader showing in Kal may give Bush the state. But if the Naderites don't vote straight "green" all the way, then Democraps may sweep all the rest of the Kal offices.
 
The size of the poll, 2,250 is over double the size of a typical poll. The fact that it polls "likely voters" rather than just "registered voters" (who may not vote) suggests that the sample is a good one. Check out the "Battle Ground" poll which is saying the same thing. Battle Ground uses [super] "likely voters." It is bi-partisan and very accurate.

The key is turnout, turnout, turnout.

We know that YOU are going to vote, now find two of your lazy friends and spend the next two months convincing them to vote.

I just hope they vote the right way.

Rick

[This message has been edited by RickD (edited August 26, 2000).]
 
I've given out 20 or so bumper stickers. My office parking lot looks good. My friend just put up a yard sign and his neighbor is for Bush but wife doesn't want sign. I saw Bush stand at Wal-mart and neighbor saw Bush stand at Borders books. I've volunteered to put up yard signs any weekend they need me. I'm going to hit the ranges and my local gun store and maybe another.

As I've worked for a campaign firm once before(Alabama Democrats-Blue dog so rest easy folks). I have suggested they get a post-card ten of your friends campaign, followed by phone, followed by mail piece and hopefully some ads.

I will not go down easy nor will I be a lazy belly acher! Time to make them nervous.

madison

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RickD:
The size of the poll, 2,250 is over double the size of a typical poll. The fact that it polls "likely voters" rather than just "registered voters" (who may not vote) suggests that the sample is a good one. Check out the "Battle Ground" poll which is saying the same thing. Battle Ground uses [super] "likely voters." It is bi-partisan and very accurate.

The key is turnout, turnout, turnout.

We know that YOU are going to vote, now find two of your lazy friends and spend the next two months convincing them to vote.

I just hope they vote the right way.

Rick

[This message has been edited by RickD (edited August 26, 2000).][/quote]
 
News from the southern front! Interviews with democrat operatives during the convention show they see little chance of success in North and South Carolina. That's 22 electoral votes going to Bush.

Watch out for horserace journalism. Every national election they do the same thing. Create a horserace to keep rating (and revenues) up. Popular polls are interesting, but polls looking a electoral votes is informative. Compare the two and you will see something other than a horserace.



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