I have the mossy 835 and for non-reloaders it offers more versatility than a 10ga in shot choices. I believe all the factory 10ga loads are the same as 12ga 3 1/2" offerings, the 835 has no forcing cone, with the backboring, and the bigger bore should mean better patterns, it also has factory porting. At 17yd trap on the corners, and the clay comes out on an angle towards you I ususally am able to really take my time and get the lead and drop, I don't "smoke it" but it is in a few pieces. For under $250 out the door, w/3 chokes, and a sling system for carrying, it works for me, . I do use a $6 recoil pad, as a cheap way to get 15 1/2" of LOP. It does come with a dual bead, most of the time it is love it or hate it, I like it. The problems come with not being abe to shoot slugs w/out a barrel change. With an overbored 12ga, or reloading a 10ga you can always tailor your loads for the game, and maybe not ruin meat, I though I heard that more areas are going to go to non-toxic loads. I am not sure if this is in the US, or Canada, or just a myth.