Interesting juxtaposition of crime stories: DC and Florida

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Nation's Capital Declares Crime Emergency
Jul 12 11:26 AM US/Eastern

By BRETT ZONGKER
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

Two groups of tourists were robbed at gunpoint on the National Mall, just hours after the police chief declared a crime emergency in the city in response to a string of violence that included the killing of a British activist.

The activist, Alan Senitt, was attacked in the Georgetown area on Sunday, his throat was slit and police say the attackers attempted to rape his companion. It was the 13th homicide in the city this month. Robberies are up 14 percent, and armed assaults have jumped 18 percent in the past 30 days.

On Wednesday, U.S. Park Police were looking for connections between the latest Mall robberies and three similar incidents in the area in late May. There have been no arrests in any of those cases.

On Tuesday night, two women from Texas were robbed at gunpoint by two men dressed in all black, said U.S. Park Police Sgt. Scott Fear. About 15 minutes later, a family of four from Missouri was robbed by suspects with the same description, he said.

Though no one was injured, Fear said there were similarities to three violent attacks on the National Mall in May. In one case, a 17-year- old woman was sexually assaulted.

"We try to prevent this from happening," Fear said. "We're going to reallocate our resources. We're going to see what improvements we can make."

District of Columbia Police Chief Charles Ramsey declared a crime emergency in the city after Senitt, a volunteer for the potential presidential campaign of former Virginia Gov. Mark R. Warner, was killed.<snip>
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Florida crime rate down to lowest level since '71
July 11, 2006 - 5:36 p.m.

By BRENT KALLESTAD
Associated Press Writer

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida's crime rate dropped for the 14th straight year in 2005 to its lowest mark since 1971 because of tougher laws, increased financial support from the Legislature and law-abiding citizens with guns, Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday.

"This report shows that staying tough on crime works," said Bush. "Law abiding citizens that have guns for protection actually probably are part of the reason we have a lower crime rate."

The crime rate, compiled by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, decreased 3.7 percent from 4,855 crimes per 100,000 people in 2004 to 4,677 crimes per 100,000 people last year. The total included 881 murders, 12,230 rapes and 75,204 vehicle thefts.

In 2005, the state's law enforcement agencies reported 838,063 crimes compared to 850,490 in 2004, a 1.5 percent decrease.

Last year Bush signed a bill that allows people who feel threatened on the street, in a bar, at a ball game — or just about anywhere — to "meet force with force" to defend themselves without fear of being prosecuted.

"You send a real powerful signal when you know the citizen has a good potential of being armed and doesn't have to back off anymore," said John Birch, president of the Illinois-based Concealed Carry, Inc. <snip>
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Both these stories were listed on Drudge earlier today right next to each other.
 
And yet the Brady Bunch will tell you that Florida is the one with dangerous gun laws.

So, is just an amazing ability to ignore reality or is it actively disregarding an understood reality that conflicts with their agenda?

I don't know which it is and either one is deeply disturbing.
 
So, is just an amazing ability to ignore reality or is it actively disregarding an understood reality that conflicts with their agenda?
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Both. Their agenda is an active disregard for reality.
 
Somebody has Reagan quote for a tag line that is most appropriate. "It's not that are liberal friends are ignorant; it is just that they know some much that isn't so."

A polite society is an armed society. When every state that passes better(in our opinion) CCW laws experiences a drop in crime it is contributed by liberals as being due to "other factors".:barf: Like the criminals going somewhere with more sheep and fewer wolves.:cool:
 
"This report shows that staying tough on crime works," said Bush. "Law abiding citizens that have guns for protection actually probably are part of the reason we have a lower crime rate."
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Seems so logical to me. Must be something in the water up north or wherever certain politicians gather that makes them so... so... illogical on this topic.
"We try to prevent this from happening," Fear said. "We're going to reallocate our resources. We're going to see what improvements we can make."
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Great last name, outstanding quote from our Federal gov't's homegrown ghetto District's own LE Agency. (Weren't they the ones who SOLVED the Vince Foster suicide? :rolleyes: ) I'm certainly reassured that something positive will be done soon in our beloved National Capital (or is it Capitol?)
 
Interesting indeed...

I think that's one of the few things I like about Florida, is the relaxed gun laws. (I plan on moving to Colorado after graduation though. :p ) So could anyone here tell me if Colorado has a similar "Right-to-shoot-law" as they call it here in FL? I definately agree that armed society = polite society. As I've debated with anti-gun people, "If a robber who was holding up a cashier then had 3 or 4 other customers draw on him... what's the chance of him being successful at committing his crime? Chances are quite slim that he'd be able to get out alive." It's also important to state that societies that outlawed guns were run mostly by dictators, and obviously as the old addage goes, the only people that had weapons were the military/police and the CRIMINALS. That usually shuts them up about their desire to end owning guns. It's also good to use American cities where they REQUIRE anyone over the age of 18/21 to carry as a reference, as they tend to have lower crime rates. (I believe there are places like that in Texas, correct me if I'm wrong.)


Epyon
 
I'd stay away from Denver. I'd also check the Brady Bunch ratings for the states and avoid anything with a grade of A through C.

The only place I know where people are required to own a gun is a city in Georgia (Kennewick?). I don't remember that they require carrying a weapon, nor have I ever heard of such a place.
 
Thank you for the clarification...

Contemplating on this thread, and just thinking in general. I find the parallels between the two countries that I am a citizen of rather fascinating.
 
I don't think that any place in America requires you to carry. But in places where you can easily carry crime is low.
 
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