Increase in people "going berserk" with guns...

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Mokumbear

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Getting back to "are you a good ambassador for the gun community", the number of people who are "VERY bad ambassadors for gun ownership" seems to continue to grow.

Case in point, within 24 hours, a deadly mall shooting in Salt Lake City
and a mass murder during a company board meeting in Philadelphia.

Add to that, (besides a littany of others) the tragic slaughter of innocent
children at an Amish school in PA by a mentally ill man.

Now, it seems "gun control" measures have no effect on this.
A determined criminal/madman will find a way to buy a gun.

Why do you think that so many people, from teens to adults find that the
only way to "settle their scores" is to kill unarmed people, who pose no imminent threat to them?

Once again, I like guns. (This isnt Dianne Finestein posting under a
false name)... :o
 
Switch channels, bub, or better yet just turn the tele off. If that's your measuring stick then it seems like Anna Nicole Smith has banged just about every male who is old enough to walk upright. That don't make it so, though.
Crime levels are very low despite what you see on TV. Once in a while the ghouls at the "news" get lucky and two unrelated events happen close together.
 
When someone like CNN spends hours in a day continuously covering a shooting incident it blows things out of proportion. It also creates copycat shootings !!!
 
CNN spends 24 hours a day talking about things that affect very few of us, continually showing the same brief clips (not magazines) of people walking in slow motion. They spend about one minute a day in my estimation talking about important things.

There does appear to be a copycat mentality and fifteen-minutes of fame sort of thing but it isn't really new. I have nothing to back this up but supposedly about 75 years ago someone blew up a school building with dynamite. The next day Lindburgh flew that Atlantic, so the incident received next to no news coverage.

Mind you, other things have changed in 75 years as well and not all of them have been for the better.
 
I don't think it's the shooters that are causing the problems, it's the media.

Case in point...

Remember the Duke University rape case? You probably do because it was all over the news for weeks. After all, it was a bunch of "privileged white guys" who committed the so-called crime.

Recently though there was another case of rape in the same city. Only this time it was a black guy who raped a white woman. Have you heard about it?

I watch the news every night to see the weather forecast and any sports scores that might be interesting. Everything else is just commercials, either to promote a product or a point of view. The constant harping on events such as the recent shooting are nothing more than an attempt to promote the idea that guns are bad and need to be confiscated. While that exact idea is never (or seldom) mentioned, it's always in the back of the story somewhere.
 
Crises

If the news media can't find a crisis to make noise about, they'll invent one. Making noise about crises, real or imagined, after all, is their business. (Case in point: In northern states, the nightly TV news will almost certainly have a reporter "Live and on the scene," outdooors, to report that, yes, it IS snowing hard--This in Nov or Dec, when it would be more noteworthy if it were NOT snowing!) They have to keep us tuned in to the TV, and/or buying newspapers/magazines, so the advertising can be sold.

Politicians have an even greater vested interest in crises--First they must find one and point it out, then they must project themselves as uniquely qualified to lead us away from it and to safety. That is one of the most usual methods of getting elected. And re-elected.

In neither of the above cases does the nature of the crisis matter much to its purveyors. The only question is, how can the crisis best be exploited.

The negative aspects of gun ownership and use--real or imagined--are simply convenient to some of them at the present. Were another, more useful crisis to come along, gun issues would be entirely shelved, at least temporarily, by all but the most dedicated antis.
 
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Yes CNN's sole purpose is to keep you glued to their channel, 24/7, crises or not. So little news gets messaive drama, they'll even pull in a live car chase from any city so they can to get you to watch. After it concludes, they take a nice long pause for a commercial about RLS - Restless Leg Syndrome - I mean, don't we all have that?!!:rolleyes:

Local media is exponentially worse. I've actually emailed the weather guy saying he should be put in jail for scaring the sh*t out of everyone and causing a panic for hurricane / storm supplies. They just make people go loonies with the "you are going to die unless you do exactly what I tell you" attitute and their what I call: "Blood Red Radar". Notice the color or their radar versus NOAA, it's just scare scare scare... Well now that Im all riled up Im going to kick the cat!!! :mad:

Well now at least I have a pistol to stop the crazies from coming in to steal my batteries-
 
Compare the number of handguns privately owned to the number of handgunners going beserk. Almost too small to measure? Yup. Tune out the commercial media and things get calmer all round.
 
ain't nuttin new pard. If it were not guns, it would be mothers driving their cars full of babies into a lake, someone with a knife, arson, or what have you. Something every day, but in all reality, America is a pretty tame place nowdays, compared to times past.
 
News media loves bad news, the more bodies the better. They are trying to sell you bad news like stock brokers on TV are trying to sell you stocks. They hype the hell out of it and make it look like a national crisis. More people die on the highways, of food poisoning, and natual causes every hour than these nutjobs kill in a month. Sure it sucks to be the person who dies and their family, but in the large scale, such shooting are insignificant events. They just make good TV.

REAL reporters take time, researching, putting together a story, relying on the facts, going undercover, putting themselves at risk, digging for the truth. Zooming in on a coverd body and pretending to cry while repeating the same 2 paragraphs of info for 2 hours is NOT reporting.
 
It seems to me that the time spent reporting on these type of events started to rise at about the same time as the democrat party winning control of congress.
 
What was it Don Henley said? "Here's the bubble-headed bleach blonde, comes on at five, she'll tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye"

Pretty much sums it up concerning the media. The thing is, none of the dim bulbs can put two and two together and figure out that the first thing going after the guns is the microphones.
 
Something else to consider is these incidences may have been happening all along, but not getting the immediate and repeated nationwide exposure it does now.
 
I agree with Majic... Think back to the 70's-80's when people were shooting up Chicago back alleys on a daily basis. Did you hear about it on the news? Nope, you didnt know unless you could hear the gunshots.
 
I can't believe the response in this thread.

Can't people see the connection between the never-ending encroachment of our rights, continuing of the 157 year bi-partisan monopoly, rising right next to the rate of "increase" in people who are lashing out against society?

The smaller the cage gets, the harder they fight to get out.
The more people who seem ambivalent, the more they are viewed as enemies.

How many of you folks with kids read your kids history, government and social studies books?

Its a harsh reality learning and reading about liberty, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and then turning 18 and realizing that was all just fluff to make you feel patriotic while speaking a pledge to flag that no longer represents a republic, with Constitutional limitations.

http://www.saf.org/pub/rkba/general/FoundersQuotes.htm

Read through that links quotes, and then compare that to our current system.

In Washingtons farewell address, he clearly warned of exactly what has manifested our current predicaments and failures as bearers of responsibility in checking the power of government, to ensure the republics foundation remain sound.

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/washing.htm

Do police not see themselves as the front line between citizens and law?

If not, why not?

If so, why are we not provoking more action by citizens, co-workers and politicians to do what needs done?

What happened to introspect, and skepticism?

“The business of skepticism is to be dangerous. Skepticism challenges established institutions. If we teach everybody, including, say, high school students, habits of skeptical thought, they will probably not restrict their skepticism to UFOs, aspirin commercials, and 35,000-year-old channelees. Maybe they'll start asking awkward questions about economic, or social, or political, or religious institutions. Perhaps they'll challenge the opinions of those in power. Then where would we be?”
-Carl Sagan, in The Demon-Haunted World (Sagan encouraged skepticism on all these subjects - he was simply articulating why the establishment is wary of it.)
 
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