In non-reciprocity states do I show CCW permit?

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kkb

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I'm going on a car trip through states that do not have reciprocity. I know I can't carry and must comply with each states car carry regulations.

If I'm stopped by a LEO for some reason should I present my permit even though it has no validity in those states?
 
You would be asking for an anal probe that you wouldn't deserve.

An LEO who pulls you over is not your buddy, he is looking to collect money from you. If he suspects you might be armed, and possibly illegally, under those circumstances, I'd avoid it.

Rick
 
Think of the two possible scenarios:

1. You show the LEO your permit when they ask for your driver's license. They may or may not search your vehicle.

2. You don't show your permit, they run your driver's license and (BOOM) your permit shows up on the computer. The LEO will probably be a little more paranoid (gun unholstered) when he comes back.

The choice is yours. But personally, I would show my permit and mention that I am not armed.
 
I don't see the difference. One is discovered on the computer (if, in fact, this is the case), and the other is from a laminated card. Will the out-of-state cop know whether an FBI background check was required in your state (to put his mind at ease since you weren't a felon at the time of issuance)?

Are states sharing CCW information now?

Rick
 
Even assuming that the out-of-state cop has access to the information that you have a CCW license issued in your state, knowing that you have a permit is not probable cause for him to go searching your vehicle. A CCW license can be obtained even when one does not own a single gun! Possession of an issued license is not cause to believe you are actually in possession of a gun in their state as you travel in your car.

I remember a case in which a man won a legal appeal because the cop's reason for stopping and searching him was an NRA sticker on his car.

Anyone stopped for this had BETTER advise their lawyer to look that case up and play on the precedent that it set.

Even better, start off by hiring a lawyer who knows his junk and tells you about that case.

-blackmind
 
If you are legally transporting the gun according to the rules of the state in which you are stopped (typically unloaded, cased, zipped, etc.), and that state does not recognize your permit, I see no point at all in showing it to the officer. It would be like showing him your library card.
 
It would be like showing your library card in Saudi Arabia, where many literary works are banned, and many don't go to the library. You're inviting more curiousity than you'll need or appreciate.

Rick
 
The only reason I can think of would be if you're carrying illegally and you think you're going to get searched.

You might run into a reasonable LEO who considers any ccw license valid.
 
I know if you have a Texas CHL when the officer runs your DL the CHL also pops up. I dont know what information is passed to another state when they query TX?
 
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