Impressing the judge, North Carolina style

David Roberson

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I just had to share this one. Taken from the AP wire today (5 April 00). Simply astounding.

From today's AP wire:

FAYETTEVILLE -- A sentencing hearing for a teenager convicted of killing two women and wounding a third in a gang initiation began Tuesday with his intoxicated mother led to jail.
Tuesday's hearing began with Judge William Gore Jr. sending Francisco "Paco" Tirado's mother, Alice Tirado, to jail. She showed up intoxicated to testify as a character witness for her son.
A deputy stopped her outside the courtroom, where she submitted to an alcohol-sensing test, which gave a reading of 0.27. In North Carolina, 0.08 is considered intoxicated.
Tirado, briefly put on the witness stand with the jury absent, said she had been drunk since her son was jailed and had been drinking until 4 a.m. Tuesday.
"I haven't slept in three days," Tirado said.
Defense attoryey Carl Ivarsson told Gore he was unwilling to put her on the witness stand in that condition.
"I assume you love your son," the judge said to Tirado. "The least you can do is appear sober."
He declared her a material witness, sent her to jail under a protective custody order, and instructed that she be visited by a mental health counselor and reappear in court today.
The judge learned later in the afternoon that Mrs. Tirado had been taken from the jail to a hospital for treatment. After sending jurors home for the day, he discussed her condition with a mental health counselor, a doctor and Francisco Tirado's defense attorneys.
"Paco had a very bizarre family," defense attorney Carl Ivarsson Jr. told jurors.
A Cumberland County Superior Court jury on Monday convicted Tirado, 18, and Eric Queen, 21, of first-degree murder, kidnapping and attempted murder. The same jury will decide whether the two should die for their crimes or spend the rest of their lives in prison.
Tirado and Queen randomly abducted and killed Tracy Lambert, 19, and Susan Moore, 25, in Linden on Aug. 17, 1998, as part of an initiation into the Crips gang. The killings were carried out with bullets tinted the Crips' signature blue.
Debra Cheeseborough, 42, abducted separately the same night, was shot seven times, but survived and testified against the two, the first of nine co-defendants in the case to stand trial.
Gore ordered the defendants put in leg irons after prosecutors complained that Queen balked Monday at being taken to a holding cell. They also said Tirado made threatening movements around deputies.
The judge granted a defense request to place a skirt around the defense table to shield the restraints from jurors, but said he didn't think they would influence the jury.
"In fact, these people are convicted murderers," Gore said. "I don't think it's going to come as any great surprise to the jurors that they're in custody."
 
Mom showed up drunk as a "character witness" huh? Well, that actually sounds about right to me. The judge/jury ought to see the truth of the situation. Screwed up people raising screwed up kids that turn out to be sociopaths is turning into a national epidemic. Hopefully the jury's impulse won't be toward pity in this case.

And if the Crips are commiting murders with bullets "tinted the Crips' signature blue" then the whole gang needs to be indicted on criminal conspiracy charges, IMHO.
 
Isn't it considered poor etiquette to appear in court drunk and not bring enough to share with everyone?

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Gunslinger

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What kind of animal would you have to be to do that? The mother to appear in court in a way that helped convict her son is bad enough--but the son killed people as an INITIATION? He KILLED people. They DIED. FOREVER. For nothing more than to get him into a club of thugs.

What kind of filthy animal is this? Kill it, not for revenge, but because you kill rattlesnakes and jackals rather than coddle them.
 
Yikes! I was hoping this was an "Urban Legend", as there have been many about gang initiations, but this looks real.
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OK - If no one else will ask then I will.

How do you tint bullets? Factory or handloads or both? Two tones possible(school/cammo colors) possible? Any cleaning problems after use? Turpentine? :)

Enquiring minds want to know

westex
 
Westex...
That kinda looks like galvanized metal primer...its a clearish blue tint coating that you then can paint over.
As for cleaning....doubt if Crips spend much time cleaning and maintaining their guns, if they did we'd probably read about them killing themselves :)

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Friends,

An update from today's newspaper: Both of the shooters got the death penalty.
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Hooray for justice. Still doesn't bring back the dead, however. :(
 
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