I'm worried about the future of "American Shooter"

RH

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If this goes the way it's looking like it's gonna go, I don't know what other network would pick the show up. By extension, this might also affect the hunting shows, for those of you who care.
http://www.iwon.com/home/entertainment/entertain_article/0,2084,58307|entertainment|09-19-2000::02:04|reuters,00.html

TNN Moving From Nashville to NYC
September 19, 2000 1:59 am EST

NEW YORK (Variety) - Cable's TNN, aka The Nashville Network, will drop much of its country music programming under an overhaul that also includes a name change to The National Network and a relocation of its headquarters to New York from Nashville.
The details of TNN's repositioning as a general entertainment network will be announced Tuesday by Tom Freston, chairman of MTV Networks, the Viacom Inc. unit that recently absorbed TNN when Viacom merged with CBS.
As part of the restructuring, Herb Scannell, president of MTV Networks' Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite and TV Land, will add the presidency of TNN to his portfolio. David Hall has resigned as the Nashville-based president of TNN.
Scannell said TNN will evolve over the next few years, shedding many of the country music shows on its schedule, some of which will gravitate to TNN's sister network CMT (Country Music TV), which now reports to John Sykes, the head of VH1. The Grand Ole Opry series, for example, will likely end up on CMT after its contract with TNN expires in a year or two, Freston said.
Diane Rubina, senior VP and associate G.M. of TV Land, will get the new title of general manager of TNN. One of her duties will be to buy TV series and movies for TNN, Nick at Nite and TV Land.
"We'll be able to buy deeper in the catalogs of the major studios than any other group of cable networks," Scannell said. "We'll be the best one-stop shopping destination in the business."
For example, from one major-studio distributor, Rubina could be buying fresh off-network series for TNN, older library series for Nick at Nite and TV Land, theatrical movies for TNN and specials for all three networks.
Freston said MTV has drawn up a plan that will increase TNN's production of original programming dramatically over the next five year so that, by 2005, 50% of the network's schedule will consist of originals. TNN will continue to operate its production facility in Nashville to help in that ambitious first-run-series lineup, with the Nashville-based Brian Hughes, senior VP of sports and outdoor programming, reporting to Rubina. "We'll still keep a substantial presence in Nashville," Freston said.
"We want to create a balanced programming schedule that will appeal to adults 18 to 49," Freston said. "We'll be working closely with Paramount and CBS," with Paramount producing general-entertainment shows that could play on both CBS and TNN. Paramount and CBS are also divisions of Viacom.
Sports will figure prominently in TNN's future, Freston said, particularly because TNN will soon start running the highest-rated weekly series, year-round, on all of basic cable: the World Wrestling Federation's "Raw is War," the Monday primetime series, which has made USA consistently the No. 1 rated cable network in the U.S.
Viacom outbid USA for the WWF cable package. USA sued earlier this year, claiming that Viacom violated its right of first refusal. A Federal Court in Delaware ruled in Viacom's favor, solidifying the TNN deal. In addition to wrestling, motor sports and rodeo competitions will continue to be a part of the TNN programming mix, Freston said.
Scannell said the weekly WWF matches will help to elevate TNN into the big leagues of general entertainment networks like USA, TBS, Lifetime and TNT. He added that when the cable rights to the next major professional sports league come up for renewal, TNN will join in the bidding with the other powerful network players.
The same will be true for high-visibility off-network series and theatrical-movie packages, Rubina said. Sources said that over the next couple of years TNN's programming budget could easily double the current Paul Kagan Associates projection of $173.4 million for calendar 2000.
 
Everybody else has their own cable channel, why isn't there a "Shooters' Channel"? This would be a place that would cover 100% of Olympic shooting sports, broadcast visually exciting IDPA, IPSC and Cowboy Action events, cover hunting, archery, self-defense, and fill in the gaps with great "gunny" movies like "Ronin".

There are supposedly 40 million households out there with guns. That's got to be enough of a target market to justify a channel. In addition to spending money on guns, ammo and accessories, they'd be a prime target group for other products like pickup trucks.

Anybody want to buy stock? If I get enough "yes" answers maybe I'll draft a prospectus for an IPO.
 
I was at the IDPA Nationals last week and did not see anyone connected with American Shooter. If you are into shooting sports, how did this get missed?

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John
 
That would require a large $ commitment of adverising. TNN's shows seem to avoid the controversy and fly under the radar. Look at Dr. Laura, for how one's enemies can gain momentum (with the help of the media, of course) and chase away advertisers.

Besides the fact that X & Y is a major supporter of this show, and they may not have much advertising dollars to spend if things keep going the way they are...
 
The scariest part of the whole article, to me, is, "TNN will soon start running the highest-rated weekly series, year-round, on all of basic cable: the World Wrestling Federation's "Raw is War," the Monday primetime series, which has made USA consistently the No. 1 rated cable network in the U.S."

WWF? Only if I'm turned on by characters like "Retch, son of Thing"!

Beam me up, Scotty!

Art
 
Just goes to show which direction our country is headed when pro(fake)wrestling is a #1
prime time broadcast.

Waterdog
 
If American Shooter is dropped, they will be losing this viewer. I can find (actually avoid) the other trash on competitive chanels and don't need it replacing quality shows like American Shooter.
 
TNN is only parting ways with Country music. They wish to focus more on sports and outdoor shows. So, I seriously doubt that American Shooter will be dropped. Calm down.
 
Allow me to relay a little story about the American Shooter, that I’m not quite sure what to make of.

I like to take every opportunity to support the shooting sports, Second Amendment (really all of the Bill of Rights), and appropriate civil rights causes in a variety of ways. I will usually try to make a donation or purchase an item to help the group’s cause. I will also go out of my way to avoid supporting groups or companies that infringe upon those rights or those that are anti self-defense oriented.

As I usually watch the American Shooter (recorded on a hard drive recorder), I caught their advertisement about the long-sleeved embroidered shirt that they offer for sale during their program. I called the 1-800 number displayed on the screen for several months without success. Every time I would get the voice mail stating that there were no operators available to take my order, but that I could leave a message and that they would return my call. Well, over the several months that I called, probably making 15-20 phone calls and leaving several messages, I was unsuccessful in contacting anyone at the American Shooter.

Last week I called again and got the same phone-bot run-around and I decided to try punching “O” and some other keys to see if I could access a warm body to answer the phone. Well, low and behold a person answers with “ Hello, SMITH & WESSON. May I help you?”. Needless to say I was taken aback a little. I asked the person if this was the American Shooter and they said yes. I asked why they had answered the phone S&W and he stated that they were adjacent to or shared office space with S&W. Well, I went ahead and placed an order for a shirt and it arrived about a week later. The title on the return address of the package was “SAW”.

Based on the following observations:

1. Smith and Wesson products are predominately displayed on the American Shooter.
2. They (AS) has not answered their phone or returned messages in months.
3. The “klinton & Wesson” sell-out deal and public outrage has hammered the company (S&W).
4. The return address label noted as “SAW”.

Is it reasonable to assume that S&W benefits from any monies spent at the American Shooter? I am almost tempted to return the nice shirt in light of the above information. Anyone else have this experience?

Skyhawk

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Da eine gutgeordnete Miliz zur Sicherheit eines freien Staates nötig ist, soll das Recht des Volkes, Waffen zu besitzen und zu führen, nicht geschmälert werden.
 
I always get a good laugh when I see *&# commercials during American Shooter. I understand that they (AS) need the advertising monies from any sponser who is available. At the same time, it is a waste of time running *&# commercials to convince me to spend my $ on their products (Titanium line feh!)
My personal view on the future of TNN and AS is that the best way to ruin something is to affiliate it with MTV.
 
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