im sure its been talked about but im asking for slightlyu difrent reason

Evan03

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im very fond of the super red hawks with 7.5" barrel for good alround hunting plinking just haveing good time kinda revlovler, i used to have a 44mag with the 7.5" barrel. the rifle shot very well for me, recoil was very noticable and it even blooded my hand a few times .

i know longer have the super red hawk and am going to get rugers 2.5" barreld aslaskan. this decision on caliber would be easy but they dont chamber the alaskan in 44mag. makeing it not so easy

i want the alaskan as my carry rig while bow hunting and scouting, but i also intend to have the 7.5" barreld version sitn along side it because i intend to hunt big game with it. i want the two in the same caliber.

the 454 seems to be my best option due to being able push 45long colts aswhell as full blown casull rounds, but for some reason the the 454 does not appeal to me as much in a hunting revolver. why the 44mag does and not the 454 i have no idea guess mainly because i have some exsperince with the 44.

if you were in my shoes and wanted both revolvers in the same caliber what would you decide on. im soley intending on ordering the alaskan in 454 but that dang 480 just keeps nagging at me. why is this? i realy have no knowledge of either caliber. other than the 480 just seeming sexier to me.

im almost sure most will think the 454 is the better option and im hopeing the answers to this question tell me that.

thanks in advance for any insight in my delima

thanks
Evan
 
willjr


hmmmmmmmmm

that isnt what i was exspecting the first reply to be,

maybe im wrong in thinking the 454 is the better choice.

thanks for info


Evan
 
Couldn't you buy a nice used 44 and have it shortened?If the 44 hurts why would the 480 or 454 be any better?
 
I'm really interested in getting a .480 and I'm really interested in the Alaskan. I'm just not sure the interests are going to collide! _At this point_ I think the ability to fire hot .45 Colts as "normal fare" just makes .454 hard to beat in the Alaskan. Honestly it probably doesn't make _that_ much difference because I would fire it almost 100% with handloads with either caliber. So I could "load down" the .480 to be more like moderate .45 Colt. The only big issue then would be the cost of components and .45 Colt is going to win that big time from what I've seen.

I _think_ I would prefer the .454 in the Alaskan and then get something bigger in .480. That could change especially if I was offered a .480 for less money or something.

Gregg
 
im not afraid of recoil, even if it hurts everyounce inawhile. the thought of havn the super red hawk shortend did cross my mind, but then youd have an alaskan. id shortn it right to frame same as the alaskan.

recoil will be alot more dramatic but ive also got alot of will power to control it. well it actual controls me but i handle it well.

game for the 7.5" barrel will be deer black bear and elk.

thanks for the replies

Evan
 
To answer your question....

I believe as far as versatility goes, the .454 is your best bet. Using the Alaskan or the .454 Super Redhawk, you can shoot a large variety of ammunition. We have a customer in the shop who shoots a .454 Super Redhawk. He recently purchased some custom moon clips for this gun that allow him to shoot .45 Win Mag, .45 GAP, and .45 ACP ammunition. Couple that with the ability to shoot .45 colt, .45 Scofield, .45 Auto Rim, and .454 ammunition and you have one hell of a versatile gun. If you think reloading .45 colt will be cheap, imagine shooting .45 ACP for your plinking load. I personally shoot .45 Colt alot and I load a 250 grain keith at 1200fps. This was Elmer Keith's favorite hunting load in the .45 colt, .44 special and the .44 magnum. A .45 Colt loaded to .44 Magnum ballistics is definately more friending on the hand, especially out of a .454 based gun. This will allow you the joy of the .44 Magnum power, and less recoil. The .454 itself is also powerful enough for anything a .480 Ruger can kill. Keep in mind that Lynn Thompson the owner of Cold Steel knives has taken most African game (including most of the big five) with the .454 in a Freedom Arms Revolver, although I am unsure if he has gotten a permit to hunt an Elephant yet, last I heard he was still waiting.

The 480ruger is capable of handling any game you intend to hunt wether it be varmints or grizzlies.

While I can kill a ground hog with a .50 BMG, do I think it is the best caliber for the job? I have yet to see a "wonder cartridge" that does everything. I would be very wary of any such claim.

I would point out that if I was going to buy a .480 Ruger, I would probably spend the extra money and buy the .475 JRH, which will chamber .480 Ruger, .475 Linebaugh, and .475 JRH.

* An experienced handloader will note that many of the cartridges I spoke of that can be loaded into the .454 can be loaded to similar performances, I wished to point out that there are a number of cartridges that can be bought off the shelf that will load into this gun. With the exception of .45 Auto Rim. I do not know of anyone still making this cartridge commercially.

.44mag
 
Thats the nice thing about revolvers. A 357mag will shoot 38spl, a 44mag will shoot 44spl and so on.

I think you meant to say:

Thats the nice thing about SOME revolvers.

There are several that do and they are very versatile.

But not all revolvers have a sub version of their own cartridge that they can shoot. I just wanted to clear that up, someone could be mislead and possibly hurt themselvers. One should always insure that shooting any cartridge in their gun that is other than the marked caliber, is safe.

.44mag
 
i realy doubt ill be reloading for the the 454 for awhile. im not spedning enough time with my centerfires as is and im settling on loads way to fast. so ill delay loading any pistol rds for awhile.

thank you very much for the info. you guys have talked me into the 454. im hopeing the alaskan is available to order in the next few weeks. if its not i just might get the 7.5" barreld version of the shelf. and toss a leo on it and get back to practiceing like i was with the 44.


thanks again

Evan


heres the link incase some havent seen it


http://ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/News-11-11-2004B.html
 
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