Illinois Ammo Ban Bill!

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AMMUNITION BAN BILLS ON THE MOVE IN ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY

A pair of ammunition ban bills are up for hearing in the House Executive Committee this week. If enacted, either of these bills would effectively ban the purchase of ammunition in Illinois. The bills in question are HB 4269 sponsored by Rep. Monique Davis (D-Chicago), and HB 4349 sponsored by Rep. Naomi Jakobsson (D-Champaign).

Here is what passage of either of these bills would mean to you:
1. Ammunition manufacturers would be required to imprint a secret code on cartridge casings so that the purchaser of the ammunition could be identified.

2. When you purchase ammunition, that secret code would be registered to your name.

3. All your ammunition purchases would be registered with the Illinois State Police.

4. You would be responsible for all eternity for ammunition registered to you.

5. It would be in your best interest to destroy all expended ammunition casings because an unaccounted for empty casing could be used to frame you for a crime you did not commit.

6. You would have to surrender all unregistered ammunition you now own to the Illinois State Police.

7. Reloading would be banned.

8. The Illinois Department of Revenue would be authorized to place a tax on ammunition and raise that tax any time for any reason.

9. Taxes and increased manufacturing costs would raise the price of a box of .45 ammo to $200 or more.

10. Gun ownership would become too costly for most people.


WHAT YOU MUST DO TO HELP SAVE YOUR GUN RIGHTS:

1. Call Rep. Monique Davis’ office at (217) 782-0010 and POLITELY tell the person that answers that you are a law-abiding gun owner and you would oppose Rep. Davis’ attempt to ban ammunition.

2. Call Rep. Naomi Jakobsson’s offce at (217) 558-1009 and POLITELY tell the person that answers that you are a law-abiding gun owner and you would oppose Rep. Jakobsson’s attempt to ban ammunition.

3. Call each of the following members of the House Executive Committee and POLITELY tell whoever answers the phone that you OPPOSE HB4269 and HB4349 and that you would like them to vote against those bills in the Executive Committee. Remember, you represent the gun owners of this state, so BE POLITE:

Rep. Dan Burke (D-Chicago) (217) 782-1117
Rep Joseph Lyons (D-Chicago) (217) 782-8400
Rep. Dan Brady (R-Bloomington) (217) 782-1118
Rep. Eddie Acevedo (D-Chicago) (217) 782-2855
Rep. Maria Antonia Berrios (D-Chicago) (217) 558-1032
Rep. Bob Biggins (R-Elmhurst) (217) 782-6578
Rep Michael Bradley (D-Chicago) (217) 782-8117
Rep. Brent Hassert (R-Romeoville) (217) 782-4179
Rep. Jim Meyer (R-Naperville) (217) 782-8028
Rep. Robert Molaro (D-Chicago) (217) 782-5280
Rep. Bob Rita (D-Crestwood) (217) 558-1000
Rep. Angelo Saviano (R-River Grove) (217) 782-3374
Rep. Arthur Turner (D-Chicago) (217) 782-8116

4. Please pass this alert along to all your gun-owning friends and ask them to make calls as well.

5. Please post this alert to any and all Internet bulletin boards to which you may belong.


Our politicians forget the Constitution!
 
Jeez! Looks like ALL those Representatives are once again from CHICAGO LAND.
The NEW Capitol of Illinois once again legislates for the rest of us.

I'll make some calls...

PS: They tossed the constitution out in Illinois. It left with Jim Edgar.
 
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It will never pass. The ammo makers will never spend the money to imprint 'secret codes' on individual cartidges.

Its just more feel good legislation proposed by left wing loons.

The recent high cap magazine ban was defeated in IL and this will be too.
 
serializing ammo

One of the things that kills these bills is the huge database that would be necessary to "register" the numbers. Just think about how many rounds of ammo are sold in your state in any year and you will see the issue. States cant afford to buy and maintain that kind of database and hire the necessary staff to run it. Governors or legislators finally figure that out and it dies. This makes them feel good but thats about all.
 
What happens when the box is labeled wrong and the "secret code" on the cartridge don't match the numbers you registered with the police and then a crime is committed with the ammunition containing the serial numbers you registered. You'd have some explaining to do.

Even with strict quality control, mistakes are made. Heck, Winchester managed to put double powder loads into some of it's .22 cartridges.

I wouldn't want my court case depending on whether or not some manufacturer made a mistake.
 
Downstate politicians should start tacking on admendments to these Chitcago bills making them only legal in Crook... er... Cook County and/or Chitcago.
 
These bills are being introduced in most states as part of a coordinated effort by the gun banners. They are trying to see if anything sticks in any state, and use that to leverage the rest.

Kill the bills and then work to throw the authors out of office.
 
Quite a bit of similarity on this proposed bill and the one in Washington State that was posted earlier. Sounds like a concentrated effort by the anti gunners to ban ammo if they can't ban the guns themselves.

(And isn't if encouraging to think that Obama is a product of the Chicago Democratic machine that loves these kind of bans??)
 
Man... the fact that Jakobsson can hold office is a very good argument for s---canning the liberal arts college at UIUC. Who votes for her?? The engineers know it's not technologically feasible and the b-kids know it's not economically feasible. This is one of the scariest premises I've ever read, because it shows how far out there the left is. Talk about absurd. Their rules for the real world are bad enough, let alone a fantasy world.

How to "fix" Chicagoland? Raise the lake a couple hundred feet and sandbag the hell out of DuPage.
 
Maybe we're taking this in the wrong direction. Instead of calling our reps who don't really serve our interests anyway (especially in Chicago), why don't we call the ammunition companies and urge them to send a representative to the legislature and inform them that if such a bill was passed, no ammo sales would be made to the muncipalities and districts of those who sponsered the bill. Kind of like what that .50 caliber rifle maker said to California.
 
Instead of calling our reps who don't really serve our interests anyway (especially in Chicago), why don't we call the ammunition companies and urge them to send a representative to the legislature and inform them that if such a bill was passed, no ammo sales would be made to the muncipalities and districts of those who sponsered the bill.
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This was tried by manufacturers opposing the microstamping bill in CA. It didn't work. Pols don't care because they know all they have to do is make law enforcement exempt from these regs, and some manufacturer will pick up the slack left by the few who refuse on to sell.
 
Best solution is Article 4, section 3 of the Constitution. All that would be needed is to determine which state to go with- and I wouldn't recommend Wisconsin.
 
Make no mistake, I would strongly oppose this. But I question the so called $200 box of .45ACP. That sounds like exaggeration to spook people into talking the side of the author. Don't sink to the gun grabbers level; only they usually pull stunts like that.
 
Just think of the mess a person could start if codes were put on cases. Anyone could go to a range and gather dozens of different cases, reload and get dozens of people arrested for the same crime and the true identity still never be known.
 
The only thing this would acomplish would be to create a black market for "untraceable" ammo as well as firearms. That, and increase the use of revolvers in crimes. As for mass shootings, who cares if they can trace your brass if you plan on putting the gun to your own head?
 
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