Illegal Magazines

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Ariloulaleelay

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...of the firearm variety. :)

hrmmm... what magazine? It has been returned to it's rightful owner. He said he didn't even notice. hrmmm... now I have to go out and replace it with 2 preban 30 rd'ers.

thanks for the info, guys. It's much appreciated.



[This message has been edited by Ariloulaleelay (edited February 22, 2000).]
 
There are several things you can do.
<OL TYPE=1>
<LI>Return the LEO/Mil mag to your LEO friend.
<LI>Keep it and face the possibility of making an extended stay at Club Fed.
<LI>Destroy the mag.
<LI>Make a visit to a nearby bench grinder and....(you can figure out the rest).
</OL>

If I was in your position, I would most likely do #1. It is the least painful and most legal.

Jason

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"Ray guns don't vaporize Zorbonians, Zorbonians vaporize Zorbonians" The Far Side

[This message has been edited by jcoyoung (edited February 22, 2000).]
 
Actually the FIRST thing I would have advised you to do is NOT get on an open internet message board and confess to possessing an illegal mag. But oh well...
 
Return it to your LEO friend. Don't let a mistake put you in the jackpot. Currently that is a major violation of federal law and you will loose your right to own any guns in the future. Its just not worth it for a mag that you can still get fairly cheaply in pre-ban form.

The grider thing is a bad idea, not to mention adding another felony charge placed upon you.

Do the right thing and give it back to the LEO.

[This message has been edited by Branspop (edited February 22, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by Branspop (edited February 22, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by Branspop (edited February 22, 2000).]
 
I agree with not trying the grinder bit. With the metals analysis technology available today serial numbers can often be retrieved even if filed, stamped, or grinded off. The compression made when they are stamped at the factory is "echoed" in the underlaying metal. It's not anywhere near 100%, but if some ATF thug has it in for you, it is a definate risk if they can prove the mag once had serial numbers.

I've always wondered, though, how many of the no-name, non-numbered full capacity mags out there were made after the ban. With the astronomical prices many of them will eventually bring, the temptation is definately there.
 
I don't recommend the grinder at all. Just something I think that we have all considered doing. Its a crazy world we live in where the EXACT same item can cost over twice as much as another item with some letters stamped into it.
 
Can someone fill me in on what this discussion is about.

What do you mean by illegal 30 round mags?

Is there a law out there that could get someone in trouble if they bought something illegally/by mistake.

I know ignorance of the law is not allowed, but it would be nice to know what not to do.
 
JD45--

He's discussing LEO mags: "For Law Enforcement ONLY". These are post-ban magazines, and have a stamp on the bottem that gives the date of manufacture and the L.E.O. warning. About as attractive as a damned swastika, if you ask me. (grrrrr...)

They are NOT worth it. DON'T risk being branded a felon, and losing your "legal right" to keep and bear arms.

I agree you should be able to own it, but you have to be a pragmatist, here. If you lose your legal status of the RKBA, you hurt all of us. The bench grinder is NOT an option.

TFL does NOT, repeat does NOT espouse the commission of federal felonies, even when the law that was broken was clearly a violation of personal liberty. We play by the rules, people. Keep it squeaky clean; we have to be good all the time, while they only have to get lucky once!

So be good, capische? ;)

L.P.
 
Thanks Long Path, but I am still a little confused.

My concern is this. I own a Mini14 with a 5 round clip. I also see advertised clips of 15, 20 and 30 capacity.

If I buy some of the 30 round clips for my Mini14 will I be in violation of any law.

I always play by the rules even if I disagree with them. We gunowners certainly don't need to do anything outside the law. Actions such as that only makes it harder on all.

Additional input is appreciated.
 
They're Pre-Ban, manufactured before the 10-rd limit. They're legal to own. The manufacurers were made aware of the ban coming into existence for several months before it actually was implemented, and word is that at many of the big gun-manufacturing plants, High Cap magazines were rolling off the lines at the highest rate they'd EVER been made (One was tens of thousands/day, I was once told!!! Running the plants 24 hrs/day to the end...). There's a LOT still out there.
 
I am a hundred percent certain that people are still making hicap mags and selling them as preban. I see brands of hicap aftermarket mags in the last couple years I NEVER saw before the ban and never even in 94-98. Who cares? I am glad they are doing it...it's an immoral, unethical and unconstitutional law and I would encourage anyone who can break it without a danger of getting caught to do so. That said, I wouldn't mess with the mags with serial numbers and dates...that's too easy to get caught with, and particularly not worth it for AR mags, which are plentiful and relatively cheap.
 
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