(IL) Teens say it's easy to get gun

Oatka

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Oh boy, where do you start? :)
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/gun28.html

Teens say it's easy to get gun

June 28, 2000

BY LUCIO GUERRERO STAFF REPORTER

Forty percent of teenagers say they can get a handgun with little effort, according to a national survey that will be released today.

Northbrook-based Teenage Research Unlimited also found that teens largely believe video games do not make teens violent and, by a 3-1 ratio, they believe there are too many guns in society.

Gun Statistics

Northbrook-based Teenage Research Unlimited conducted a nationwide survey of teenagers on their attitudes towards guns.

36% -- Number of teens who said they know someone who has been shot.
28% -- Know of a handgun in their house, garage or barn.
61% -- Do not believe that `video games can make teenagers violent.'
41% -- Could get a handgun `if I really wanted to.'

As for the availability, some say teens don't even have to leave their house to find a gun.

"There are a lot of smart people out there, and I would say that is true," said 18-year-old New Trier High School student David Joutras. "If someone wants to get a gun, all they have to do is go to the Internet or something and they'll get one."

That notion has a chilling effect on some students, who still talk about Columbine and other school shootings.

"The sad thing is that there are plenty of sick people out there who want to make money and would be happy to give a gun to a student," said William Purkhiser, a senior at Homewood-Flossmoor High School.

"I think that's pretty scary."

According to a recent report issued by the Department of Education, over 6,000 students were expelled in 1996-1997 for bringing guns to their public schools. A 1995 survey conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that two in 25 high school students reported having carried a gun in the last 30 days.

Last year there were 460 people murdered with firearms in Chicago. Contributing to that were 165 offenders under the age of 21 who were charged with murders involving firearms, according to Chicago police. And 158 of those gun-related homicide victims were under the age of 21.

CDC also reports that every day in America, 14 children age 19 and under are killed in gun homicides, suicides, and unintentional shootings. For every child killed by a gun, four more are wounded.

"I'd have to say that I was not surprised by a lot of the results, but I was disturbed," said Claude Robinson, director of community services for the Uhlich Children's Home of Chicago, a child welfare agency that offers foster care, teen parenting services and counseling for neglected children.

Among the other findings in the new study, which surveyed 550 American teens:

* More than one-third of the teens said they know someone who has been shot.

* About 30 percent know of a handgun in their house, garage or barn.

* More than 60 percent do not believe that video games can make teenagers violent.

Uhlich sponsored the survey in order to use the results with its "Hands Without Guns" program, a program in which teens go to area schools and community centers to talk to their peers about gun violence.

According to the survey, teens are also more likely to believe that gun violence--such as what happened at Columbine--won't happen in their schools. More than 58 percent said they were not afraid "that gun violence might happen in my school."

"Guns are not something that my friends and I talk about," said Christine Stepanski, an incoming senior at St. Francis High School in Wheaton. "I mean, we live in the suburbs."

"The only time that I can remember people talking about guns was after Columbine, and people were wondering if that could ever happen here," the 17-year-old said.

Along with releasing the findings today at a news conference in the Daley Center, the group will also announce a vigil it will conduct over the summer remembering the children who have been shot in Cook County.

They are hoping to raise awareness about gun control, something that group member Muhammed Brown thinks is necessary.

"It's scary," the 21-year-old said. "I live in a rough neighborhood. I can purchase a handgun from someone's trunk."

Copyright 2000, Digital Chicago Inc.
 
Well I am on the internet now where can I get a gun LOL.

Note that they are talking mostly about Chicago where handguns are illegal, yet they have a very high crime rate in the bad areas. Mostly due to gangs. Sure I bet they all did see someone get shot, they were hanging out with their gang buddies at the park and rivals come by and start shooting. I know a few people that have seen it as well. Don't people get it? The guns are already illegal in that area yet these punks still get them on the black market. More laws won't help that at all. Handguns are not illegal here in Des Plaines a suburb just about 5 min from Chicago, we had ONE murder last year. Don't people look at the stats anymore and have a clue?? I would bet my life if you took down some of those projects, start separating people, clean up the area, your shooting rate would go down tremendously. Oh sorry that would be too sensible. :rolleyes:

Good article, thanks Oatka!

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Why give such credence to what teenagers think about such an important issue? When I was a teenager, I thought I knew everything and that my folks knew nothing. "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now."

Dick
 
When my dad was a teenager in Illinois, it wouldn't have been any mere 40%. Back then, he could buy a 1911 at the hardware store on the square, no FOID, no ID of any kind, cash and carry. The only reason he didn't was that he wanted the Mauser rifle instead. ;)

So what the hell is their point, exactly? In dad's day it would have been 100% who could get a gun with no effort, but they weren't shooting each other. So what?
And again, how exactly did these Chicago kids qualify as experts? How many have tried? That "they can get on the internet or something" has the ring of one who's never tried it, kind of like "they just do that with computers now. It's easy" or "it's a write-off for them."
 
Actually, note they claim this is a 'nationwide' survey.

36% of teens know someone who has been shot? Oh, c'mon! Please. I don't buy that for a minute.

And, I agree ... we're now supposed to use this data to do what? Make public policy? Let's do another survey, and I'll wager a large percentage of these teens have never heard of the Bill of Rights, much less care about it.

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Remember when you were a teenager. Everybody said they were getting laid regularly too. Not many actually were. Same thing with this BS. What happened to responsible journalism. Just because someone says something doesn't make it true or news.

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I think the DOJ should sponsor a project to determine (debunk) this repeated trash, once and for all.

The DOJ should sit down with ten high school seniors that think they can get a gun on the internet, give them a computer and a dial up account and a credit card with $1,000.00 limit let 'em go! Let's see if they can get a gun off the internet.

Right. Delivered straight to their high school by a Fed Ex man in disguise. Sure.
 
...what sensop said.

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36% said they knew of someone being shot.... OK... 270 million people in the U.S that would come to 97.2 million people shot.... but lets assume that 90% of these are the same person who was shot (it's just that they knew a lot of people), that would still leave 9.7 million people who were shot.... OK.. now the stats on all gun deaths = 33 thousand per year. For every one killed there are four wounded. This comes to 132 thousand a year plus the 33 killed is equal to 165,000 per year with some kind of bullet in them. Take the 9.7 million divided by the 165,000 comes to 58 years to arrive at this number.

Knowing someone must be that they heard of a person shot on the news that lived in the same state with them..... This must be another Kellerman study.



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I'll be 30 within the week, and I don't personaly know anyone that's been shot while not in the service, or are they counting people shot in service to their country?
Eric

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