If you use Winchester PDX1 124 +P

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Oysterboy

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Check your bullets. I bought 3 boxes of the PDX1 +Ps and I found 5 rounds with the wrong bullets. These will not chamber in my Sigma 9 and PF9 and not allow the slides in full battery.

Better safe than sorry

 
I would contact Olin, and let them know, as well as email them the picture. It looks to me like they were seated too long, and possibly did not have all the flare removed. Another possibility is that they are 147 grain bullets that did not get seted deeply enough. I reload so I am sure I would have weighed them, and measured them at the case mouth, and the length.

If they are not seated too long they may fit the magazine, though the bullet's ogive could be touching into the rifling causing the slide to not go into full battery, and the difficulty extracting.

Like I said before contact Olin (They make Winchester's ammo.) I am sure they will make it right.
 
Wow

I wonder if those were made in Illinois?

I know Olin was in intense negotiations with their unions and the Union basically said that Olin was bluffing when they said they'd move their operation to Oxford Mississippi. The union leadership accepted a proposal by the company then the membership rejected it. Olin then went ahead with plans to relocate to Oxford.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/article_ebcde769-54bc-5031-b4d5-e19fda6d770b.html

Maybe they're suffering QC problems because of a disgruntled workforce:

Barham fears the 593-470 vote that split the ranks of the Machinists will carry over to the workplace for the remaining days of ammunition production in East Alton.

"It's going to be a tense situation because everybody is going to be pointing fingers at everybody else," he predicted. "Some people are going to say, 'You cost me my job.' And other people are going to say, 'You didn't stick by your guns.' It is not going to be pretty."
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I've seen the 147s and they have the same shape as the 124s and if you noticed the OAL are all the same. Some fellas on another forum thinks they're 38/357 bullets seated in 9mm cases.

Interesting what you said about the company hassles. It's either sabotage or a mix up during the changeover. I sent an email to Winchester about it but they never responded. I'd soon boycott Winchester for this nonsense.

Imagine if someone fired these bullets there would be damages and/or injuries. I was lucky because the first round I chambered was the bad one and I noticed that my slide wasn't in battery. Found another one in the mag. When I check my PF9 there was one in the mag as well. Checked the boxes and pulled out 2 more.

Taught me not to take the rounds for granted. Lesson learned, just glad it wasn't the hard way.
 
Sheesh. I have a few boxes of the .38's and one box of .9mm 124gr +p. I just checked mine and they are fine. Given all the goings on with the company and ammo test I've seen makes me think twice about buying any more.
 
you can see the ogive is different. I'd tell them they owe you a case of ammo for that kind of mixup. You could have shot those and hurt yourself or the guy shooting next to you. You just potentially saved them from a huge lawsuit.
 
I get what I can find in Walmart and that's not much. On my side of town there's not much places selling ammo. Guess I'll have to go online to get some good stuff.
 
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