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Colorado Police Say Gunman Left Suicide Note

Friday , September 29, 2006

BAILEY, Colo. — The gunmen who kept six girls hostage in a Colorado high-school classroom for hours this week before killing one, then himself, left a suicide note, Park County police said Friday.

"We're still analyzing the content of the note," Sheriff Fred Wegener told reporters, adding that one of the weapons found in Duane Morrison's possession was traced back to a family member of the shooter. The note was sent to Morrison's brother and was received Thursday.

Investigators were piecing together evidence Friday to try to determine the motive of Morrison, who sexually molested all six girls during a four-hour standoff with police, and sexually assaulted at least two of them. Morrison had burst into a college prep English class at Platte Canyon High School at the beginning of the ordeal.

"They were molested and I think they all were molested but I don't know how much or to what degree, and to be honest, I'm not sure I want to say," Wegener said Friday, adding that, as a parent, his heart goes out to the families of the hostages.

"It's a healing process that will take some time but I couldn't be more proud to be part of this community," he said, with tears in his eyes.

The 10-page, handwritten suicide note Morrison sent to his brother didn't say how he was going to kill himself, nor did it detail his plans for this week's attack at Platte Canyon High School, according to Denver's local KCNC-TV. The note is now being described as more of a letter — a long, rambling piece in which the man talked about personal pain he'd been experiencing.

Morrison also reportedly wrote that he knew family members would probably be angry with him because of publicity surrounding the end of his life.

Wegener says investigators found the note after agents from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms traced ownership of the handgun used in the killing to the brother, who then said he'd received what appeared to be a suicide note.

Authorities said they knew of no connection between Morrison and the hostages.

"I want to put an end to whether it was random or whether it was a deliberate attack," Wegener told CBS' "The Early Show" on Friday.

On Thursday, Wegener said the suspect approached a male high school student Wednesday and "asked about the identity of a list of female students." The sheriff said he wasn't sure if it was a written list or names rattled off by Morrison.

It was not disclosed whether the list included 16-year-old Emily Keyes, whom Morrison shot in the head as a SWAT team broke through the classroom door in a rescue attempt.

On Friday, Wegener encouraged reporters and others to not be so quick to criticize the school's security procedures until it's determined exactly how the ordeal began.

"Let's get a handle on what happened before we start making criticism," Wegener said.

He noted that after the 1999 shooting at nearby Columbine High school, a school safety officer was installed at Platte, and more training procedures were put into place "that I believe made us better and I believe it made the school better."

"I was just thankful we had those procedures in place," he added.

KCNC-TV in Denver reported that video from cameras outside the school showed Morrison sitting in his Jeep in the school parking lot for about 20 minutes and then mingling with students as classes changed, nearly 35 minutes before the siege began.

Wegener said the Colorado Bureau of Investigation spent much of Thursday examining an apparent roadside campsite about a mile north of the school, where a resident found trash and an assault rifle.

The sheriff said it was too early to know if the rifle was connected to Morrison.

Investigators said the 53-year-old Morrison was a petty criminal who had a Denver address but apparently had been living in his battered yellow Jeep.

Morrison walked inside the school with two handguns and a backpack that he claimed contained a bomb. Investigators did not say what was in the backpack.

During the siege, Morrison released four hostages. While still holding two girls, he cut off contact with deputies and warned that "something would happen at 4 o'clock," authorities said.

About a half-hour before the deadline, a SWAT team used explosives to blow a hole in a classroom wall in hopes of getting a clear shot at him. When they couldn't see him through the gap, they blew the door off the hinges to get inside, said Lance Clem, a spokesman for the state Department of Public Safety.

Morrison fired at the SWAT officers, shot Keyes as she tried to run away and then killed himself, authorities said. During the gun battle, police shot Morrison several times, they said.

The sheriff said he spoke to Emily's family and explained his decision to try to take Morrison by force.

"They were surprisingly supportive of everything I did," Wegener told CBS. "They are extraordinary people indicating that are going through a rough time. I hold the responsibility for Emily in my heart. I'll live with that for the rest of my life."

Classes were canceled for the rest of the week as the community tried to come to grips with the bloodshed, which evoked memories of the 1999 shooting rampage that left 15 dead at Columbine High School, less than an hour's drive away.

Louis Gonzalez, a spokesman for the Keyes family, said the girl's father was among the parents anxiously awaiting word from their children during the standoff. John Keyes had just bought Emily and her twin brother cell phones for their 16th birthday.

"How are U?" a volunteer text-messaged Keyes on her father's behalf.

At 1:52 p.m., she messaged back, "I love U guys."

"In memory of Emily we would like everyone to go out and do random acts of kindness, random acts of love to your friends or your neighbors or your fellow students because there is no way to make sense of this," Gonzalez said. "It's what Emily would have wanted."

Student Chelsea Wilson said she was in the classroom when the gunman came in and told the students to line up facing the chalkboard.

"All the hairs on my body stood up," she said. "I guess I was somewhat praying it was a drill."

One by one, the gunman started letting students go. Chelsea, a tall brunette, said she was the first to leave. Her mother, Julia Wilson, said she thinks the gunman selected the blond, smaller girls. Keyes' yearbook photo shows a smiling blond girl with blue eyes.

Chelsea said she heard what might have been a gunshot after she left the classroom.

"He's a pervert," she said. "I'm not sure of motivation. I just knew it wasn't good."

Residents of this mountain town of about 3,500 gathered Thursday at the Platte Canyon Christian Church for support. Others stopped by the Cutthroat Cafe, where Keyes had worked for about two years.

"It's very sad here. You know, the family lost their daughter but as a community, we lost a child," said Bobbi Sterling, a waitress and cook. "We're just sitting here, numb and in shock. We're all just kind of stunned."

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Of course there's gun registration tracking. That's why FFL's have to fill out multi-copy paperwork on all the guns they transfer. ATF tracks the ownership history on all gun registration numbers.

I'm confused. Was there ever any question as to whether they did this?

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Handguns are no different than a lot of other products that have serial numbers. If an expensive stereo receiver shows up in a theft recovery, the police can track the serial number by finding out what dealer the factory sold it to, and then the dealer would have the serial number in their sales receipts where the person who bought it from the store (originally) could then be contacted.

This kind of sales history is hardly "registration" of weapons because it only works as long as there is a direct record of subsequent sales. And while FFL transactions DO keep these records, there are a lot of private sales within states where guns are no longer associated with the original buyer.
When even private sales are mandated to be recorded with the government, then I will very much agree that we have arrived at "gun registration".

The laws on the books right now are just common sense laws needed to help in some limited way to keep known felons from freely buying weapons, and in light of the sunset of the stupid CLINTON gun ban of 1994 sunsetting, and the numbers of states that are increasingly going with CCW permits, I really don't think that "registration" is the direction we are heading... at this point (future wins by Democrats in the Congress, Senate and White House will make this "all bets are off").
So don't just vote one party or another because we have some RINO Republicans who are just as bad as Democrats when it comes to individual rights. Make sure that you are voting for the MOST "true" Conservative in ANY political race and we should be OK for quite a while.

The bottom line is that I don't see anything sinister in the text that you highlighted other than that a couple of Democrats will "try" to make something of it among the whacko Leftist Domocrat base.

Carter
 
No its not registration because the information is in the hand of third parties, not the gubmint

WildandletsseewhogetstherealpointAlaska
 
Please elaborate and educate us further. Most of us don't know the ins & outs of where our infomation goes. All we know is that you take all our info, then call the gub'mint to see if it's okay. So if they don't hold the info, who does? And what insures the separation of the two entities? If big brother can get our phone records just by saying please, who's to say it stops there?
 
Gimme a break. NICS checks dont involve makes or serial numbers. All info in a 4473 stays with the seller until request.

Here is the process: Cops find Colt. Cops call Colt. Colt says shjipped to us. Cops call us. We say sold to X. Cops call X...etc

Wildsee?Alaska
 
Registration is where the government can tell, from your name, what guns you own. They use the name to find the guns. Registration is NOT being able to track down the owner of a firearm used in a crime by finding out what dealer it was shipped to and who he sold the gun to; that's simply using the gun to find the owner.

I don't doubt that registration lists exist in piecemeal fashion; but this is not registration.
Rich
 
I would only had that there is usually a distributor/middleman (e.g. RSR, inter alia) on Wild's timeline.

The registration that the ATFE does do consists of two main areas:

1. NFA items;
2. Registration of Title I weapons obtained from Class 1 dealers who hand in their FFLs or from projects such as Forward Trace which was a project to register "assault weapons".
 
Umm don't think so Alaska ATF trace center in VA can back trace the origanal purchaser of ANY gun bought through commercial channels in about ten minutes. The records they have go back to about 1976 when recording purchases and serial numbers became a federal manditory item.
 
probable cause

When guns are banned they can just use the concealed carry licenses people have and subpoena the gun records so they can search gun owners' homes. :)
 
Buy your guns at gunshows or from private parties in the area where you live. Unless you're in one of the states requiring all transfers go thru a FFL, there is no record of the sale. No record, no registration.
 
"...trace the origanal purchaser of ANY gun bought through commercial channels in about ten minutes."

But they have to have the make, model and serial number.
The trace is not from the owners name. They will follow the transfer forms from manufacturer to wholsaler to dealer to purchaser.
They cannot follow the other way.
If the gun has been bought and sold through various FFLs a couple times they can only find that out if they stumble across the records or if each and every owner tells them who the gun was sold to.

The BATFE budget caontains a restriction that no money may be spent to computerize the forms they have stored. They have to go search the paper record.
 
Don't tell ATFE that. They have been assembling a computized data base for many years now. ATFE cares not one single whit about the law.

A former director of ATFE, Ron Nobles, admitted so on television years ago.

The paper trace is what they tell the public and the duck hunters at the NRA. Computerized records of who owns what (Title I and II) have been on-line for nearly 10 years.
 
I would have to see proof of what you say in terms of a data base operated by BATF. Until then, I see no conspiracy. There is no way that this information would not become public from a credible source with so many agents moving, quitting, or otherwise changing jobs. Yes, they trace guns using the serial numbers from the gun at the scene.
 
Title I and II are machine guns, supressors, etc.
These records are computerized.
There is not computerized data base of regular old 4473 forms from regular FFL holders (not ones in the specialized classes). It is a paper based system.

I do not think anyone was discussing Title I and II weapons.
 
Yes, we have been discussing Title I weapons. Title I weapons are non-NFA weapons, Title II are NFA regulated firearms. BATFE has been compiling computerized Title I records for some time now.

.22 rimfire, fair enough. I will see if I can find the nationally-televised video of Ron Nobles. The Firearms Coalition tracked the story when it broke years ago. Off I go to find some links.:D
 
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