If Colt can`t...

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...or won`t revive the Detective Special, then there is clearly a niche market for the next new offering of Taurus or Rossi if they will get on the bandwagon. I know I`d buy one in a second! That sixth round in the cylinder represents a full 20% increase in firepower from a snubgun, and being +p rated would make it even better. And yes,Smith Model 10 and Colt Dick Special was always a classic LEO duty combo back in "the day" since the speed loaders were interchangeable,making things easier tactically if things got hairy.
 
Agreed. I want S&W to make a run of old school M38s and I have a 2" M10-11 RB. If S&W, Taurus or Ruger would make a weighted 357 Magnum 2" RB and 6 shot revolver, they would sell. I even think a 2.5" S&W 610 RB would work well.
 
The trouble is the old Colt action is not very cost effective today. It doesn't lend itself to today's mechanized assembly line. There is a lot of handfitting necessary to assemble one which would drive the price up. If they build it with coil springs the action just wouldn't be the same.
 
Sir Willian-
Is the Lawman the later model revolver that was designed for mass production? I think one of my reference books on revolver disassembly raves about the strength of this model, and that it has a very good action and trigger feel, despite being a newer design that was meant to be easier to make. I haven't tried one, but I sure would like the opportunity.
My detective special is out to Colt for an action check and cleaning. (I just purchased it a few months ago, and given its age, I thought it would be a good idea.) I miss it already.

Mike
 
Yes. The Mark IIIs came as adjustable sighted Troopers or fixed sights Lawmans. Colt made slight improvements in MKIV and MKV versions that ultimately became snake names. Great revolvers.
 
Colt Revolvers

Howdy,

I just love Colt revolvers: Pythons, Diamondbacks, Lawmen/Troopers, Detective Specials, et al. In fact my CCW gun is a Detective Special. I sure wish Colt would bring 'em back! :(

Respctfully,
Larry C.


PS: Of course I also miss the Beatles, The Wishbone Triple option and Charlie's Angels! :D
 
Colt has fallen into a hole and can't seem to grasp what they need to do.

They've given all the revolver business to S&W, Taurus and Ruger.

All the single action (CASS/SASS) business to Ruger, Uberti and Freedom Arms.

Given away all the 1911 business away to Kimber, Springfield and *gasp* S&W.

And they've tossed the AR-15 away with their unwillingness to fathom the 'ban' has gone away to companies like Bushmaster, Oly, DPMS and a host of others. To ad insult to injury they've let FN take away the lion's share of the military contracts for rifles, leaving them with only the "M4" at least until that patent expires and then they'll give that piece of the pie up too.

When will they understand that they can only give up so much before they are no more?
 
You fail to take into account the enormous anchor Colt is dragging.

Colt is owned by private investors, AND the Union, AND WORSE, the State of Connetticut. The VERY anti-gun State of Conn.

The State only bought in to save Colt because the Union screamed about the lost jobs if Colt folded, so the State bought in just to shut the Union up.
The State would shed NO tears if Colt went away in such a way as the Union couldn't pin any blame on them.

The bottom line is, Colt has to do what the owner's ORDER them to do.

The State doesn't WANT any of those awful, evil assault weapons sold to the innocent civilians of America, and as owners, Colt HAS to obey orders, even when they loose a good market and money they desperately need.

Colt would LOVE to sell AR-15 carbines to the general population, but they are under orders not to by the (Very) anti-gun State/owners.

Companies often make REALLY stupid decisions, but sometimes those decisions are forced on them by owners with a different agenda.
 
Personally, the smartest thing Colt could do, IMHO, since they have literally abandoned the revolver market, is license the Colt wheelguns to someone like Taurus.

Quit laughing, barfing or whatever it is you're doing.

Consider this - Taurus does have a decent engineering staff. Give them a year to look at the Colt designs and revamp the internal lockworks to something that can be mass produced (without the finicky timing).

Then let Taurus produce, as a line of premium guns, the Detective Special, a Titanium Cobra and a Trooper to test the waters. Follow-on models would include an updated Lawman, a new Diamondback and perhaps Police Positives again (perhaps a lovely Titanium Viper too?)

My vision of this line would be that they would be price competitive with S&W, but with a polished blue finish, precise fitting and more attention to detail. I think this could be a win-win if Colt structured the deal correctly.
 
That would be an excellent concept for them to do, but maybe there is an insider with more than air between his head at Colt, waiting for the day his company changes ownership etc.

Personally, the smartest thing Colt could do, IMHO, since they have literally abandoned the revolver market, is license the Colt wheelguns to someone like Taurus.
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On the other hand, it would be a bit of a sacrilege to have a Taurus Detective Special, Taurus Python, or Taurus Anaconda. I'd cry.

But it would be nice for those designs to be revived.
 
So, I could buy a Ti Trooper? It might work well. I would buy a couple of Taurus 1911s, a Police Positive and three of their new Gauchos and a Thunderbolt. WAIT!? Taurus is ALREADY cloning Colts!!
 
Colt needs new owners!

Howdy,

I'm a Colt enthusiast and find this thread irresistable. Recently it dawned on me exactly what some of you have already posted on this thread: Colt is having ENOUGH difficulties just watching "thier backs"!
Obviously, they're in a NE state unfriendly to thier industry; I suppose I'll get an argument here. And for whatever reasons, they've managed to run thier once proud and mighty ship aground!
Living in very 2nd amendment-friendly Louisiana ,it has occured to me: Someone/ persons ought to BUY Colt Mfg and move it to Louisiana! True, Louisiana is the punch-line of many jokes, but where I live (Shreveport/Bossier City in the NW corner of the state. 300 miles from New Orleans) would be ideal space and transportation wise. FWIW: Clark Custom guns is already in the area and a ready supply of gunsmiths could be found to work on 1911's. Revolvers would be a different thing.
I believe Oklahoma is trying to entice firearms manufacturers to re-locate there, so I'm not crazy. Let's face it, the gun makers seem to be in these liberal, gun-unfriendly states: Md. (Beretta), Charter Arms & Colt (Conn.) and so many in Cal. Let's not forget S&W in Mass.
I think maybe it's time for some gun makers to consider relocating to states that have laws sheilding them from these frivilous, nutty liability lawsuits and Louisiana already HAS such a law! Just my controversial two cents :)

Respectfully,
Larry C.
PS: Glock saw the light!
 
Since the state of Connecticut owns part of Colt along with the unions, I'm sure that any decision to move Colt to LA, OK, or another state will be met with huge cries of "union busting" along with CT refusing to allow it to happen. On the other hand, licensing the Colt guns to another manufacturer might work if they structured the deal right. I see 4 ways this could work;

1. License w/royalties
Another maker produces Colt-pattern guns of high quality and pays Colt some dollars for each one produced/sold.

2. Manufactured for Colt
Another maker produces the Colt guns and they are shipped to Colt for final roll-marking and finishing whereupon Colt sells them. Colt pays lower labor costs for manufacture (and the unions scream like hell).

3. Colt engineers, other company produces parts stocks, Colt assembles.
Similar to Springfield, another company makes the frames, barrels, etc and sends rough completed guns to Colt for final fitting & finishing.

4. Colt divests itself of the handgun manufacturing.
Colt sells the patents, names, rights to manufacture, jigs, plans, etc. outright to another company who produces high quality guns then imports them.

I'd place my bets on #1 and #2 actually. My belief is that if they tried #3 the union workers would sabotage Colt for moving some jobs off-site/off-shore in order to stay competitive. In reality, I think the state of CT is willing to let Colt die a slow agonizing death like the last 10 years have been.
 
I have seen off-shore Colts, they weren't worth having. Colt/Llama, Colt/CZ and Colt/RIA come to mind as deals that went nowhere quick.
 
BillCA, I know your heart is in the right place, but a Colt made by anyone else would not be the gun of 20 or more years ago we are looking for. Its doubtful Colt themselves can recapture the magic of Troopers, Pythons, Detective specials, how could any other company hope to do it? Besides, Colt the business, doesn't seem like the kind of company that is willing to make the concessions necessary to change their current situation, ergo the laments of how Colt has fallen. An interesting conundrum, wonder if it'll ever get solved?
 
if colt can't

How about the EAA windacator. Gun test gave the german made 6 shot revolver a very good review. Any thoughts? I will be be using my Dan Wesson 15-2 Monson pistol pack for ccw, I plan to pick up either a nylon or rubber hougue grip and plan to get all my blued guns coated or refinished with a more durable finish to wet and rough conditions.
 
Something like this, perhaps?.... :cool:

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