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agoree01

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I have a handgun that I can not identify. it has an overall length of 15" with a 10" barrel. the barrel is belled at the end. it is a single shot breakaway that looks to be about the same size as a 410 cal. this gun has markings on the left side that read: cp 36 and on the right side: mavzer naml us u. The hand grip is wood and the steel has intricate ingravings. The underside of the gun does not have any other markings.
thanks for any suggestions.
 

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I'm no expert on such things, but at least in the US that's what would be called a "sawed off shotgun" and is ilegal to own unless registered and a tax paid on it (I have no idea where you are). Most likely someone took a single shot gun and cut it down from both ends. I can't really see the muzzle end, but it sort lof looks like a Poly-Choke or some other type of adjustable choke there.

Other than that, I can't tell you a thing about it.
 
From the pictures, and your description, it appears as if you have a “sawed off” shotgun. If this is the case you well may be in violation of the NFA, and unless you are a class III dealer the ATF will not allow you to register it after the fact. The policy of the ATF when contacted by the owner of non-registered NFA weapon is to assure the owner that all they need to do is fill out the correct paper work, have the funds to purchase the tax stamp, and have the weapon inspected by the ATF at their office. When the unsuspecting owner arrives at the ATF office with the weapon in question he will be met by several agents and the owner will be given two options either to surrender the weapon or to be charged with the procession of an illegal weapon under the NFA. I can also assure you that the agents will explain in no uncertain terms the possible penalties for the ownership of a non-registered NFA weapon. If the weapon was made before 1889 (I believe that’s the cut off date) you may be OK in owning it.

Good luck with this one, I think you will need it.
 
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Old Bear, how do you know Agroee01 is even in the U.S.?

Wherever the gun is, it appears to be the product of one of many small workshops in places that does not use the Roman alphabet, maybe Pakistan, Afghanistan, or China. It appears to be well enough made, but the markings and engraving are common to guns made in the Khyber Pass region by small shops turning out copies of western guns. The makers usually own a few letter stamps and apply them in such a way that buyers, also unfamiliar with Roman letters, accept the guns as products of western countries.

The gun is probably functional, and would have some utility and novelty value, but if the gun and owner are in the U.S., Old Bear is correct that unless registered with the federal government, it is illegal.

Jim
 
thanks to all of you that offered help. yes i did go onto stormfront. that was until i realized the lack of maturity. that is why i tried the firing line. i am a lover of all guns and ran across this one that has me stumped.
again thank you for your input and sorry to bother all of you 'mulit-bloggers'.
 
A lot of assumptions have been made here.
The gun is not necessarily illegal in the US. Is the bore rifled? Will it actually chamber a .410 shotshell?
The gun was obviously not cut down from a shotgun. It was made in the current configuration. There were guns of this type sold in the US that were rifled and, therefore, legal.
 
Don't know where I saw some of the info on them before, but there was such a thing "once upon a time" called "shotgun pistols". Don't know if this is one, or someone took something and tried to make one out of it... but this reminds me of one that I saw. Very similar.

No idea when they were made, or if they are legal anymore.
 
"but there was such a thing "once upon a time" called "shotgun pistols"."

Yep.

H&R Handigun.

Marbles Game Getter.

Ithaca Auto & Burglar.

All are now classified as short-barreled shotguns and are very, very restricted in the US.
 
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