I think I have narrowed it down.

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The Lost Yooper

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I've now spent dozens of hours researching different handguns and may have narrowed it down to the Glock 29 and Glock 30. I like the small size of the two guns, capacity, and the simplicity and apparent durability of Glocks. Both guns come under my budget and cost nearly the same.
So, it comes down to either a 10mm or .45. I've read a good article (http://www.greent.com/40Page/ammo/10/10mm-advoc.htm) where the author advocates the 10mm over the .45. Simply put, he writes there is a better variety of bullets for the handloader and the energies of the 10mm are better than the .45.
Getting to my questions, how many of you are familiar with the G29 and G30 and what are your thoughts relating to each when compared to each other?
What are your thoughts regarding the 10mm v. .45ACP arguement?
Is there any significant difference in felt recoil between the G29 and G30 in your opinion?
Have you experienced any reliability difficulties with any specific round in either gun?

Please excuse the long winded post.

Thanks a lot,

Mike

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Get the 30! I know lots of folks love the 10mm, but the resale values I've seen on the 29 are CRUD!

(probably not a great way to make friends with the new moderator, huh?)

My favorite shop here in GA had both the 29 & 30 used. They were both in excellent shape, but the 29 was $429 and the 30 was $499!!! Sam's comment was that the 29 just wasn't very desireable, and that the 10mm just wasn't a popular caliber, despite it's ballistics. To me, that translates into scarce ammo, costlier ammo, and I'm stuck with it if I don't like it.

On the 30's good side, many TFL'ers say over and over that it's the best Glock ever, with accuracy and performance that rivals the big competition models.
 
I too went through a lot of the .45 vs the 10 mm debate.

There really isn't that much information to be had since the 10 mm is really kind of a rare/modern cartrige. From what I've read it was pretty much an understanding that if you're going to handload the 10 mm is one of the most versitile cartriges to have. You can down load it to replicate a 10 mm lite or you can load it hot to replicate almost anything else in the spectrum. Seeing as I am going to handload I choose a colt delta as my choice. Now if you don't plan on hand loading then ammo gets expensive, and from again what I've read ammo manufactores are beginning to load the 10 mm down a little.

Another thing to think about is if this gun is going to be a pleasure plinking gun or if this has some house defense properties. If it's strickly a plinking gun and you plan on handloading it would be a fair decision. If you plan on using it as a cross for house defense then the 10 mm might not be the best choice, as you will be forced to stick with the factory loads for defense and there simply aren't that many out there compared to .45.

UltimaSE
 
I (G29) have both (G29) the G29 and G30 and both (G29) are fine guns, so (G29) you won't go (G29) wrong with either one.

(G29)

BTW: Cor-Bon, Triton, and ProLoad, among the better-known 'specialty houses' load great 10mm defense ammo that, while not necessarily exploiting everything the 10mm is capable of, are still leagues beyond the .40 and .45 in power. Also, the very common Winchester Silvertip is pretty heavy-duty and is more than "up to the job".
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[This message has been edited by Tamara (edited October 26, 2000).]
 
Not meaning to be stupid or anything, but Glock (in manual) warns owners NOT TO SHOOT reloads of any kind through their guns. As a gunsmith, I have heard several stories (unsubstatiated) that once Glock learns you have shot reloads through your pistol, they become 'difficult' to get factory support for that pistol. I am a Glock certified armorer and in the class, one of the questions we were told to ask a Glock owner was 'Do you shoot reloads through this pistol?' and if the answer was yes, it was recommended that we clean the pistol, give it back to the customer and 'suggest' that they try shooting factory ammo through it. If that didn't clear up the problem, then bring it back to me and I'll see what I could do. What they are basically saying (as much from a liability as a reliability stand point) is their firearms work BETTER with factory ammo. I am confident that you could say that about the majority of firearms out there. HK USP would be one exception, I'm confident there are others. Before you spend your money on a Glock, think long and hard about putting reloads into it. Yes, it costs more to shoot factory ammo, but you will save yourself repeated trips to your local gunsmith if a problem arises, if you can avoid it through your new (used) Glock.
 
I own a G29, and I've shot the G30 a few times. The G30 is nice, and a very mild shooter, but there is just something about the G29 and its 10+1 rounds of 10mm. The .45 is a good, friendly, slow and heavy round, but the 10mm is in a different class altogether. You have all the benefits of speed and bullet weight: much faster than a .45ACP, and a much heavier bullet than the 9mm. It's an excellent synergy, good enough to appeal to both the speed freaks and the "bullet size & weight" crowd. It is also a fine hunting cartridge and an undisputed effective manstopper.

G30s are fairly popular, the G29 is more rare and somewhat of a special gun: the most powerful compact handgun available. I've always rooted for the underdog, and I like the 10mm ballistics, therefore I chose the G29 over the G30. Your mileage, of course, may vary. The G29 kicks a little more than the gently pushing G30, but it is by no means uncontrollable. The first time I shot a G29, I rapid-fired a G20 mag full of Silvertips into the 10 ring and made a big, ragged hole...despite never having shot a 10mm before. Try it, you'll like it.

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[This message has been edited by lendringser (edited October 26, 2000).]
 
Both the G29 and the G30 are Glocks and are pretty much identical. But, in my neck of the woods 10mm ammo is not alwasy easy to get and it is never, never inexpensive. 45 ACP ammo can be found just about everywhere, all the time and for really reasonable prices. Unless you have a special desire to shoot a 10mm - which is okay - for me, the choice of ammo made the difference - G30. I've never regretted that choice,
 
Tamara,
I think you need to work on your subliminal message techniques. They're just a little bit too easy to spot. ;)

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