I never knew New Jersey gun ownership was so crazy...

Same way it went on in 2010 and 2009 and so on back. We have an irredeemably corrupt state government that favors the anti-gun crowd, has for decades, and will likely not ever change without intervention from the federal level- which comes with its own problems. We are dominated by not just one but several major cities which, in addition to leaning heavily left, are also severely crime-ridden- not to get too deep into politics, but that's the perfect storm for gun control whackos. I'm honestly somewhat amazed that we don't have any large municipalities with laws like Chicago's or DC's.

I've yet to meet a NJ gun owner who likes the way things are, but we're such a minority here that to say things work against us would be to say the Atlantic Ocean is a tad bit damp. The paperwork monster is a pain in the *censored* every single time. Needless to say I'm moving to America first chance I get, but in the meantime I'm not gonna let the knuckleheads in Trenton keep me from my rights.
 
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Tried it for 8 months during the previous decade, Monmouth Executive Airport and surroundings...and that satisfied my curiosity about Jersey's firearm situation. Comparatively...it's not good and didn't feel like freedom.
 
Concur, when wearing a uniform and returning from overseas, I learned of the egretious firearm laws and avoided an assignment there.
 
Lived there for 3 years.... didnt shoot once even though I had been shooting since age 14... now im free of that terrible oppressive place and am happily plinking once again. I will never never go back. One of the highest tax burdens in the nation combined with corruption and nepotism. The people were nice but seemed almost institutionalized and the degree of provincialism was surprising given the metropolitan nature of where I was (Cherry Hill across from philly). They seemed fearful to leave, fearful to peer over the next hill in search of greener pastures, even when presented with clear pictures and evidence that there are alternatives.... Glad I am out...
 
I will not even visit a state like that. It says a lot about the people who live there to keep voting for those types of politicians. I won't spend a dollar in these anti-freedom states.
 
It's not just the residents. NJ police are notorious for harassing PA shooters who cross into the state for shooting matches and such. Their gun laws are so byzantine that you're almost inevitably violating some restriction. And the police themselves don't seem to know what the law actually is.

That said, NJ shooters are much better organized than we are in PA. They run all sorts of competitive circuits and really have their act together when it comes to operating matches and other events. They deserve a lot of credit for maintaining such strong shooting programs in such a hostile legal environment.
 
I have relatives there and have spent some time in New Jersey. Perth Amboy and Cape May. It really is like going to another country when it comes to firearms. Nazi comes to mind. The folks there, on the whole, don't seem to care. They are raised with this type of oppression as the norm and view others as redneck goofs. I for instance, actually am a redneck goof so my self esteem remains intact.
 
My GF grew up there and we visit at least once a year.

When her Mom passed a while back we discovered she left her little S&W revolver and we attempted to send it back to VA where we lived at the time. I won't go into detail, but let's just say the Jersey City police captain was quite hostile to the idea of "civilians having guns".
 
Lived in NJ from 1959 to 1968 (teen years). Father bought me a 22 rifle and my friend Billy and I walked public roads to the sand pit with the rifle in plain sight. Local police would stop and talk to us and not be concerned about the rifle.

Plinked in the pine woods all day on a $1 or $2 investment. Bought ammo at Gene's Sporting Goods and Camera or Western Auto at less than $0.01 a shot. High speed 22lr was deluxe for us. My brother had a Webley 45 acp (half moon clips) that was our shooter when we could afford the more expensive surplus ammo. War surplus Springfields and Mausers were sold by the literal barrel full in Army-Navy stores.

Visiting in the early 1970's I was stopped by State Police who searched me and my car loaded for a move out of state. They gave no reason for the stop and seemed dissapointed that I was clean. But then the NJSP wear uniforms reminiscent of Hitler's army uniforms. What happened to NJ?
 
What happened to NJ?
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In the 1960's, New Jersey began losing an increasing number of state troopers in roadside shooting incidents as drug transportation by automobile increased along the I-95 corridor leading into the large population centers on the upper East Coast. The state legislature passed a very strict gun control law in response. Subsequently, whenever some punk shot a NJ state trooper, additional charges could be levied. In the words of one prosecutor's office, "They had to do something."
 
The Garden State and guns

This is a Democratic state. Enough said.

If you think general gun laws are obscene in NJ, try obtaining a CCW!
A very close friend is a judge in the Superior Court Criminal Division and he had to turn cartwheels in order to get his CCW. Can you imagine what an average NJ citizen would have to go thru? Don't bother, you will not get one.
Cannot wait to move....soon, hopefully.
 
Cannot wait to move....soon, hopefully.
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Vote with your feet man. Most jobs are taxed less out of the state, and if you are strategic you may be able to move to a state where you pay less taxes, have a higher income, and also a lower cost of living for most goods and real estate. Escape as soon as you can and dont look back. Good luck to you.
 
Lived most of my life in NJ, short one year in Delaware (where I live now) and about 2 years given to our country.

Learned to shoot in New Jersey. Learned to hunt in New Jersey. Was given my first gun in New Jersey. Shot my first clay pigeon in New Jersey, and my first (only) deer (and it was with a bow, so maybe it doesn't count). Bought my first handgun in New Jersey....and my second, and my third. And I could always find a pistol range to shoot at (well, three of them that I used).

New Jersey's gun laws really didn't seem that draconian to me all my life. I thought the Firearms ID card was a bit cumbersome, but not overly burdensome. I didn't like the long wait to get a pistol permit, though, nor did I like the fact that unless you were well connected there was no way you'd ever get a permit to carry. And the so-called Assault Weapon Ban was as stupid in NJ as it was at the national level.

Now I live in Delaware. I pay less taxes, but I can't leave my driveway if it snows, because they don't plow. My cost of living is about the same, but I make less money here. And I have to pump my own gas. And I haven't found a good public range here yet, may have to join a gun club in order to shoot. Oh, and I drive more miles to get to work.

New Jersey has problems, but so does everywhere else. It's not the fault of most NJ citizens that the idiots in the big cities vote for the democrat every time, and saddle NJ with more and more repressive legislation. Oh, and don't call it the garbage state....New Jersey's woods look just like Vermont. I know, I've been to both. What makes NJ look like garbage is the overflow from NYC and Philly. The rest of NJ is pretty nice.
 
Makes me love Utah all the more! I can carry on campus here! :D

I avoid NJ, Illinois and California at all costs!
 
very well-done video, and every word is true. I am very happy I left NJ after 18 years of residency and moved to a right to work and "shall issue" state.

Here's a NJ "gun" story:

After having gone thru the Firearms ID card application process, and even the handgun purchase permit that he used for his first handgun (references required, and yes, they called every reference), a friend was having varmint issues (skunks) at his suburban home, so he went to the (overpriced and only one within 20 miles) gun shop for a nice quiet pellet gun. Oh, did I forget to mention - under NJ law, a BB or pellet gun is defined as a "firearm", so they are only offered for sale at gun stores. That also means a Dad who wants to pick up a Daisy Red Rider for Junior needs to go thru the FID proces, and if its a CO2 pellet pistol that Junior wants...the full inquisition of a pistol purchase permit as well.

So, he picks out a Crossman pump (at full MSRP), and the nice man starts to write up the paperwork (paperwork? -yes. It's a "firearm", remember?) Friend hands him his FID card and he's reviewing the papers, and notices that the address on the form and the FID differ, because he had moved within NJ about a year prior and the FID's are valid for like 5 years. On a NJ drivers license, you simply write your new address on the back and then make it right when it comes time to renew. Well, not so with the FID. He was supposed to change over the FID to new address (which means a visit to the local PD in the new town) within 30 days of moving. The nice man proceeded to tear the form into small pieces, as he could not make a sale when the addresses did not agree.

To shorten the long story, he did make the address right on the FID, just to keep legal. As for the pellet gun? He decided on a short drive over the border into PA, where a pellet rifle can be bought at any sporting goods or WalMart for that matter.

For our next lesson, we can discuss the issue of hollow points in NJ, which are said by NJ L.E. to be illegal, yet are sold everywhere you can buy ammo.
 
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