I need to hear from some Methodists

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David Roberson

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Fellow TFLers, please help me antagonize the Religious Left.

I'm writing an article for a United Methodist publication about the church's ill-advised move of passing its anti-gun resolution at the General Conference this past May. (For those of you not familiar with it, the resolution calls for a total ban on handguns, "assault weapons," and some other undefined weapon things that sound bad.)

I'd like to hear from United Methodists who have either left the church, curtailed your involvement with the church, or are considering leaving the church because of its wrong stand on this issue. I don't need long stories, just a head count.

If the essay actually sees print -- an iffy thing, given that I'm not pulling any punches -- I'll post a link. Otherwise I'll have it up somewhere on the Web.

Thanks.
 
I left, but this is not about me.

It is about people such as my father. A life-long Methodist, he served in the Pacific in the Army Air Corps in WWII and later as a Virginia State Trooper. He is 78 and is active at church. While he can no longer climb the mountains to hunt deer, he does like his time at the range punching paper with his handguns.

On the other hand, almost all of the other men at the semi-rural church are hunters and gun owners, so he is not alone.

John
 
Saw your request and I'm not a Methodist and maybe this doesn't have anything to do with your topic but didn't the Methodist Church play a role in the Elian Gonzalez affair? If I recall they supplied the attorney for the Cuban government and the plane to fly the realitives over from Cuba?

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Coyote 6, I don't know about that, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were true. At the national level, the United Methodist Church is quite active in support of every socialist NWO initiative that comes down the pike. There'd be absolutely no reason for the church to become involved in the Elian affair, but I don't think that would matter to the folks at the national office in Washington.

None of that is pertinent to the article I'm writing, of course, except to illustrate how far out of touch the church is from its members who live in the real world.
 
I'm a Methodist like everyone in my family for generations. I've read the UMC's anti-gun resolution and found it to be tainted with ignorance, left-wing politics, and lies. Just in case the UMC leadership has forgotten, lies are un-Christian. The UMC has betrayed its membership and its country and is now no longer my spiritual home. :mad:

[This message has been edited by jimmy (edited September 10, 2000).]
 
And the UMC was a big factor in the founding of HCI.

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Ne Conjuge Nobiscum
"If there be treachery, let there be jehad!"
 
My parents are UMC and pro-gun. I'm trying to convince them to find another church. The UMC Church board was also a sponser for the MMM. Look it up on NRA.org for the sponsers list. They're the last ones on the list. Maybe my parents will be the next to leave the church. They've come a long way from J. Wesley.
 
I grew up in the Methodist Church, before the hierarchy was infiltrated by and taken over by the Marxist Socialists. Many of the mainstream religions have suffered the same betrayal. I.e., Presbyterian, Christian Church of American, Lutheran, Catholic, Jewish, etc.

I'll never set foot again in any church that advocates the destruction of our Constitution and the institution of Marxist Socialism in our country.

FWIW. J.B.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jay Baker:
I grew up in the Methodist Church, before the hierarchy was infiltrated by and taken over by the Marxist Socialists. Many of the mainstream religions have suffered the same betrayal. I.e., ...Lutheran, ...etc.FWIW. J.B.[/quote]

I'd be careful about lumping all the Lutherans together.

The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) fits your description. But the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (LC-MS), the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS), the Evangelical Lutheran Synod (ELS), and numerous other smaller bodies such as the Church of the Lutheran Confession (CLC) do not.

A big brush sometimes sweeps too wide.

Pax,

viator
 
I have stopped going and am searching for a new church. I would like info on other churches like viator provided.
 
RickG30, I attend a Bible church that is not among the anti-gun churches. Bible churches are autonomous.

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"Unless the Lord builds the house, they labour in vain that build it:
except the Lord guards the city, the watchman stays awake in vain." (Psalm 127:1)


"Freedom is given to the human conditionally, in the assumption of his constant religious responsibility."
(Alexander Solzhenitzyn)
 
Some years ago, when I was working for the National Rifle Association, I got up and walked out of a Methodist service when the "minister" began screeching about guns from the pulpit.

I haven't been going to church lately, but that's not because of the Methodist stance.

My minister when I was a teenager was a hunter. He and I used to dove hunt every year.

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jay Baker:
I grew up in the Methodist Church, before the hierarchy was infiltrated by and taken over by the Marxist Socialists. Many of the mainstream religions have suffered the same betrayal. I.e., Presbyterian, Christian Church of American, Lutheran, Catholic, Jewish, etc.

I'll never set foot again in any church that advocates the destruction of our Constitution and the institution of Marxist Socialism in our country.

FWIW. J.B.[/quote]

You can add the Episcopal Church to the enemies of freedom.

Your Cousin Vinnie
 
I grew up Methodist and was married in a UMC church (Wife is Southern Baptist) When I heard about the UMC convention and then verified the story (and found out "the rest of the story") I called the church and had my name removed from their membership list and will not shadow the threshold again.

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WFM
Life NRA, LLEA, Quail Unlimited,Ducks Unlimited
 
Have moved on from UMC to greener pastures of a bible church. They teach about the Bible NOT about the world!



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"Government is not the solution to the problem, Government is the problem!"--Ronald Reagan
 
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