I just saw some guys with a bunch of guns at a hotel...

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johnelmore

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but I wasnt scared. The reason why I am not scared is because Im in Oklahoma right now. This is what I love about being in the midwest and the south. No one is scared of guns like they are in NYC, Boston, Los Angeles and other non-friendly venues.

In the non-friendly states, owning a firearm seems like a crime. Carrying a firearm is all out taboo. In the south and the midwest, its something that everyone enjoys. It can be stylish too as guys try to outdo each other being "Tacticool" or the guys who like the more nickle plated polished look about themselves.

I wish I could be as articulate in my thoughts on this website as some others seem to be at times. I am happy there are more open minds out in the south and the midwest.
 
Yeah it is always good to be around places like that. Here in pa open carry is allowed but if you do it be ready to have the cops stop you depending on where you are at. Hopefully more states will become more gun friendly!
 
There are a lot of pro-2A in the anit-states like CA, NY, NJ, MD, etc. However, they're driven underground and into hiding by the PC crowd.
 
We do have our share of anti-gun liberals,,,

We do have our fair share of anti-gun [people],,,
But for now they are still in the minority.

I was in the parking lot of the university I work at,,,
I was transferring my handgun from holster to lock-box,,,
Some woman walking in front of my Toyota truck saw me do this.

All I heard was her yelling, "Gun gun gun gun!" at the top of her lungs,,,
I just went about my business but didn't make it to my building,,,
Three of OSU's most idiotic surrounded me with guns drawn.

It all worked out in the end but it just goes to show,,,
We do have our fair share of ... idiots here in Oklahoma.

Aarond

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Just a reminder that we don't equate attitudes to guns with particular political leanings here, and we don't do left/right politics, either. Pro- and anti-gun people come in all political persuasions, and it's counter-productive to alienate people who do support gun rights just because we may disagree with them about other things.

I've edited a couple of posts; no more liberal/conservative stuff, please.
 
I run monthly shoots of of Dallas and we eat breakfast at the same place on that Sunday we shoot. We are all wearing shirts or jackets that say “Texas Gun Owner DFW”
And we talk guns the whole time we are eating.
Many times we have had other customer get up and leave or move to a table at the other end of the eatery to not be near us.
Same thing happens when we go to lunch.
Now we are all CCW but just the sight of a group that advocates guns is enough to scare some folks off/:eek::D
 
And we talk guns the whole time we are eating.
Many times we have had other customer get up and leave or move to a table at the other end of the eatery to not be near us.
Same thing happens when we go to lunch.
Now we are all CCW but just the sight of a group that advocates guns is enough to scare some folks off/
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Maybe they just don't like groups of enthusiasts. I don't like to sit around a group of people talking about football, baseball, or basketball. Or even cars or motorcycles and I like both of those. For that matter I don't like to be part of a large group.
 
Madmo, was the smell of black powder smoke a factor there? :D

Or perhaps a bunch of shooters who have hearing loss are sometimes loud!

Bart Noir
 
I go to the range with a couple of guys now and then, we meet at a café for breakfast. It's difficult sometimes to listen to nothing but gun chatter for an hour straight.
 
I'm not scared of any gun either; it's an inanimate object. However keeping an eye on a person, or group of people, that have firearms is a reasonable thing in my opinion. Reason is I have no clue who they are or what they intend to do. Now, obviously I'm not going to be running around screaming "GUN! GUN!", or shaking in my shoes as chances have it they are just a law abiding citizen. I still don't know that though, so it's just something I'd keep my eye on as a concealed carrier.
 
Last week I was helping a fellow biker who I had never met before but we ride the same bikes and talked online. Then he says I'm surprised you came into such a bad neighborhood to help me (at his garage). (It wasn't a bad neighborhood but maybe he thought that) Then I suggested that he might want to find another way to CCW because it looked like he had a rhino horn coming out of his chest.

Then the conversation went to 1911's. 5 minutes later he handed me his ruger to check out.

Gotta love the midwest. But I have had incidents walking to my car from my apartment with hunting gear in orange and had people mumbling and pointing figures as they said gun. I offered to show them pheasants I just shot and the mood changed for the better.
 
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I get the distinct feeling everyone in Oklahoma owns a firearm just like everyone in Kentucky. I see the usual signs in places like the convention center which say "no firearms" meaning concealed carry is very common and signage is needed to remind people where the no-go zones are setup.

When people see firearms here they might say something to you if its a really premium or custom piece. Other than that, I think they would come to expect people carrying. If you are not carrying here you are the exception.
 
Aarond, the incident you relate illustrates a point. Even in a Pro 2A state or jurisdiction, if someone calls the cops and reports a "man with a gun", even though no crime is alleged by the caller, the cavalry is rolling. I live in a pro 2A state and have responded to many such calls. No Dept. is going to risk not responding in today's political climate....
 
One thing Ive noticed and these are just my personal observations. Other people's observations might be different. The personalities in places like New Jersey, NYC and California seem a lot more aggressive and rude than in places like Kentucky and Oklahoma. Maybe, just maybe, the personalities in those non-friendly states are not compatible with firearms. The people in the midwest and south might be a bit more mature when it comes to firearms.

Again, just personal observations. Ive always been able to make friends when I travel to the midwest and the south very easily. Ive never had any personality conflicts with the people in those states.
 
In the morning at breakfast it is only 3 or 4 of us and it is like 7:45 AM.
Being regulars there once a month for so many years we are talking with the wait staff and cutting up with them. Some folks as soon as they see our shirts they move or leave all together.
When we go to lunch it is rare we have more than 4 -6 people. It’s Sunday afternoon and folks want to spend time with their family or the TV.
We are fully aware we represent the gun community and try our best to be polite and no more noisy that a family that size.
I never gave any thought that we probably smell of burnt gun powder.
These people that want another table or leave you see the face and the eyes tell you these people have some problem with guns and people that support gun use.
As an example we went to a burger joint and we had no more than sat down and the man and women at the next table gave us the “eye” and you hear then mumble something about gun nuts as they leave.
There folks our there that have bought into the media BS and firmly believe it.
Now with the Waco Twin Peaks shooting / gang war we are hearing the old “we told you if you allow people to carry guns this would happen”
 
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Big club outside of Memphis area where I went to for a few matches. On any given weekend, there can be trap/skeet shooters, highpower, and maybe some handgun matches all going on at once.

There are a lot of guns booked into that place
 
In the non-friendly states, owning a firearm seems like a crime.
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Yup pretty much. Because I am a gun owner in MA I am villainized, then when they find out you carry concealed or own a scary AR15 you are labeled as a psychopath. Open carry is actually legal here, but before you walk 100 yards a "man with gun" call will come in and you can expect to get hassled, some have even lose their carry licenses for it since they are issued by the town you live in, and many cant afford to fight it. Fortunately there has been a huge increase in gun owners in MA as of the last few years and the number of Pro 2A supporters are increasing. Just recently they tried to pass a bill that would have made gun laws even stricter than they are, but every single item the anti 2A people proposed got shut down, and our local pro 2A organization GOAL ended up slipping things in there that passed and made the laws even less strict. So long story short, the anti gunners pushed for stricter laws, and the end result was more lenient laws, I chalk that up as a big win.

One thing Ive noticed and these are just my personal observations. Other people's observations might be different. The personalities in places like New Jersey, NYC and California seem a lot more aggressive and rude than in places like Kentucky and Oklahoma. Maybe, just maybe, the personalities in those non-friendly states are not compatible with firearms.
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I'm not sure it ties into firearms but you are pretty much correct, at least about MA, NY, and NJ. We certainly lack that Southern hospitality. It's not uncommon in Boston to accidentally bump into someone and even after apologizing you will get a "watch the F*** where you are walking". And forget about a thank you for holding the door for someone, or them doing the same for you.
 
It doesn't matter what state you are in, people love and hate guns. I live in West Virginia, probably the most sterotyped state. Not everyone has a gun or likes them, look at our governor. He vetoed a bill that was going to allow free conceal carry. No more paying for the class and no more paying for a license every few years. Just because someone is from a certain state doesn't mean they are a certain type of person.
 
I try not to paint with a broad brush. Even NY State which I'd assume might be anti-gun, isn't anti-gun. I think it's just a polarizing issue wherever you're at on it. Gun nuts hate anti-gunners, and anti-gunners hate gun nuts. Nothing wrong with an opinion or even a bias, as long as you remember your rights stop where mine begin.
 
Wherever you are just stay away from trust fund babies who never worked a day in their life or clueless people who were raised by their grand parents and never had to work a day in their life at any real job.
 
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