I have a new grail gun,,,

[aarondhgraham]

I have a new grail gun,,,
But I don't think it will be easy to find.

It was a nice day today so I went to the range,,,
I was shooting away and a gentleman set up next to me.

He pulled a wooden case out of a cloth bag,,,
Inside it was a pair of dueling pistols,,,
Or so I thought.

I had heard about these and seen pictures,,,
But this is the first one I have seen up close and personal.

Remington Rolling Block pistol made by Uberti.
And this man had a boxed pair of them.

We need a jealousy smiley face.

His were chambered in .357 Magnum,,,
I Googled them and found they were also chambered in .22 LR, 22 Magnum, and 22 Hornet.

He kindly allowed me to fire a few rounds,,,
I shot 3 rounds of .357 and 3 rounds of .38 Special.

They were heavy but easy to aim,,,
Even with the .357 rounds the recoil was not bad at all.

The pistols were absolutely beautiful,,,
Especially in the presentation case he had for them.

I remember reading about these several years back,,,
I made a half-hearted attempt at finding one,,,
But they were long discontinued,,,
So I shelved the search.

I asked him if he would be interested in selling them,,,
But they were part of his father's collection.

I need these guns like I need a hole in the head,,,
But having actually fired one I am now lusting heavily.

It never ends,,,
There is always,,,
Just one more gun.

Trouble is,,,
I would want a pair.

Aarond

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[skizzums]

love the authentic rolling/lever rear sight. i'll bet you could really punch holes with those even at 50+ yards. very interesting gun indeed.

 

[Boncrayon]

I have a new grail gun

The Remington Rolling Blocks have been around since the beginning of the 20 century, and actually keep Remington from going bankrupt through difficult times. Distributed world-wide in Egypt and Denmark, it boasts several calibers by foreign requests. I have the Remington 45-70 Rolling Block rifle that I enjoy at the range regularly. It was one of the first simply designed with quick loading and easy to upkeep especially for big game, like Buffalo, etc.. It is still one of the most sought after in early century firearms!

 

[aarondhgraham]

I've wanted a boxed set of dueling pistols since I was a kid,,,

I've wanted a boxed set of dueling pistols since I was a kid,,,
But I really don't like messing with black powder.

I spent a few hours searching on the web,,,
There are none of these to be had,,,
At least I couldn't find any.

So I'm not holding out any hope of finding even one of them,,,
Much less a matched pair in my desired cartridge.

Oh well,,,

Aarond

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[44 AMP]

Duelling pistols, ah, the romance of the past....

Apparently, there was some hard line practicality & skullduggery going on back then, too.

I once heard about a test firing, done with an original pair of dueling pistols, from the late 1700s. Apparently, both of the beautifully finished matched pistols shot well over a foot to the left, at their "normal" range.

If you knew that (about your guns) and the other guy didn't, it might give you a bit of an ...edge in a duel, shall we say?

 

[aarondhgraham]

Hello 44 AMP,,,

I once heard about a test firing, done with an original pair of dueling pistols, from the late 1700s. Apparently, both of the beautifully finished matched pistols shot well over a foot to the left, at their "normal" range.

I remember reading about this in a "Guns of the World" book my parents bought for me,,,
Apparently it was a fairly common thing to do back then,,,
At least that's what the book said.

It goes to that statement that if you find yourself in a fair fight,,,
You tactics suck.

Would this could be called a "Tactical Zero".

Aarond

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[Deaf Smith]

Wasn't it made in .50 cal. center fire (the original ones?)

Love to see one in such a round. Not something like .500 S&W but a sedate .50 round.

Deaf

 

[aarondhgraham]

Hello Deaf,,,

I could easily be wrong about this,,,
But I think the originals were in that .4? rimfire.

The reason I say this is because I read somewhere that it cost $4.00 for the government to have them converted to fire that .50 round.

The one I fired was fairly snappy with a 158 grain .357 Magnum,,,
It was mild and pleasant to shoot .38 Special through it.

All I really know is,,,
I Want One (pair).

Aarond

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[BillM]

The first ones were the 1865 Navy, in 50 rimfire.

Next up was the 1867 Navy, 50 centerfire, which carried on through the
1871 Army.
In 1891 they came out with a Target version. 22 short and long RF,
25 stevens, 32 S&W rim and centerfire.

1901 Target---22 short and long RF, 25-10RF, 44 S&W centerfire.

Simple and robust action---it's probably been converted to darned near
everything you would want to shoot in a handgun.

 

[aarondhgraham]

Thanks for the info BillM,,,

The first ones were the 1865 Navy, in 50 rimfire.

I was certain it was a rimfire,,,
I just didn't know the exact cartridge.

I almost wish I hadn't met this gentleman,,,
It's probably going to cost me some money someday.

Aarond

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[sgms]

1st. Model Navy and the Army model as well with the .357 Nay Arms (Uberti) only have one rather than a pair, I have never seen them in a double display box (but it would be nice to have a pair). Oh and one of the Navy issue cartridges.

 

[Mike Irwin]

"Simple and robust action---it's probably been converted to darned near"

That's the problem. Many of the originals were converted to other cartridges for use as target guns.

Prices on unconverted RBs have risen dramatically over the last couple of decades.

 

[aarondhgraham]

Maybe I'll get lucky this weekend,,,

Maybe I'll get lucky this weekend,,,
I'm going to the Wannenmacher's gun show in Tulsa.

It's supposedly the largest in the USA.

I know I've entered within a half an hour of it opening,,,
And not been able to see every table before my feet and legs gave out.

With my luck I would find one,,,
But not in the cartridge I would prefer.

BTW sgms,,,
I am green with envy.

Aarond

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