I have a Mini 14 zero problem

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Daren Thompson

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I have bought a new Butler Creek folding stock for my preban 180 series mini 14. After installing the stock I can not raise my rear sight high enough to allow me to zero the rifle. The groups are low. The old stock on the gun was a Ramline folder and I could zero the gun. Any ideas? Do they make replacement rear sight blades to raise the peep hole?
Thanks
Daren
 
It's a bit hard to believe that just changing stocks would make that sort of difference! Sheesh!

What comes to mind is that possibly the stock is pressing upward on the front end, somehow affecting the barrel vibrations. Did everything go together quite easily?

Doesn't make sense, to me...

Art
 
No I have never liked how both stocks fit. They do go together hard I know this is not good for the best accuracy possible, but it did zero with the old stock. My groups seem to be fine just low. I do not fool with this gun much but it is the first gun I bought with my own money about 10 years ago and I would like to keep it with evil features I just want to be able to zero it at 100 yards. The groups with the sights run all the way up are still an inch or two low at 25. I have shot it before at 25 and had no problems. I can't figure out if it is because of the way my head sits behind the sights or what. Any more help, suggestions ,ect will be appriciated.
Thanks
Daren
 
If the groups are an inch low at 25 yards I wouldn't worry about it. Try shooting it at 50 yards and I would suspect that you should be dead center. At 100 yards you will probably be a couple of inches high. Other than that you may need to file a little off the front sight to bring the groups down. Just a little should do it.
 
filing is a tricky thing

especially if you wind up with a cockeyed sight. I'd used a clamp to place the sight between two parallel bars and take it from there, a few thousanths of an inch at a time. File, sight, shoot. File, sight, shoot.

Easier way is to learn KY windage as suggested earlier. Know how it shoots at 50, 100, 150 and 200. Allow for plenty of cooling between shots and groups.
 
Daren:

You say you have a 180 series... The 180 series uses a different stock than the 181 series and higher. The 180 series stock is longer and different. The problem with your gun might be that neither stock fits. To my knowledge, no plastic stocks were made for the 180 series to include Ramline, Choate, and Butler Creek. The wood stocks are nearly impossible to find anymore. My 180 came from a police auction after some nitwit cut it down with a hack-saw and wrapped it with Duct Tape! I took a Choate folder from an Ithaca 37 and fit it to the Wood stock for my folder. Good luck.
 
The stock fit just hard? Is it possible to get a 181 stock on a 180? I did not know there was a difference. What exactly is the difference? The stock fits it is just a pain in the butt. When assembling the gun you have a trick to get the screws by gas port to go together. I know this does not help accuracy, but I really don't fool with this gun much anymore. I did shoot the gun at 100 yds this weekend and it will zero(very close to the end)so I guess I can live with it but I never remembered the gun that low at 25.
Thanks fore all the input!
 
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