I Got My Cordoba Back From Benelli

Jim1776

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I wrote some time back about a 20 gauge Benelli Cordoba that was having jamming problems. I had tried everything from cleaning to different lubricants and different ammo. It still had a jamming rate of about 1 to 2% on good days. This was unacceptable to me so I sent it back to Benelli.

I got the gun back with form letter saying that the gun was repaired and cleaned. I took it out to the skeet range for three rounds of skeet. Of course the thing jammed. I was disgusted and threw the thing in the trunk of my car and left. Nothing was fixed at all, just a lot of time wasted.
Yes, I heard all the arguments about using the right lubricant, the right ammunition, and the one I love, shouldering the gun tightly! I love that one. It comes from gun writers reading each other and repeating the same thing. I have seen guys in Argentina shoot the old Benellis one handed like a pistol and no jams. This is with Argentinean ammunition, the worst I have ever used. Not properly shouldered, yeah right!

The ammunition thing gets me too. The gun was supposedly designed to use in Argentina where you shoot a 1,000 or more rounds a day without cleaning the gun. Benellis are the only autoloader most of the ranches rent out, that is the old Benellis. The ammunition, like I said, is crap, well unless you want to pay a lot more for imported ammunition. My Cordoba would jam on AA, Federal, Remington, everything. It would be a joke with Argentinean ammo. Actually it was a joke as is. A $1500 single shot.

Anyway I happen to own part of a metal shop so I took it there and had them weld up the rear most notch and mill it down even. Now it looks and works like the old Benellis. Yes, it will float a fourth shell on the carrier now but what is important it hasn't jammed once in over 400 rounds. I even tried some extremely light reloads and no problems. I am not going to say it is cured until it goes a thousand rounds without a jam or cleaning but this is the best run it has ever had.

For those that don't know this change in the gun happened, a few years back the USFW threaten to ban the importation of Benellis if the company did not change the design so it could not float a fourth round. Benelli at the time explained that this was not meant to be a cheat feature but rather an anti-jam feature. They were correct. The guns are no longer as reliable as they were. It can be easily fixed though as I did.

As far as being able to float a fourth round goes, well if someone wants to load more than 3 rounds it is damn easy to do without floating a cartridge on the carrier. Simply unscrew the forearm cap and remove the plug. It can be done in less than 20 seconds and then you can load 5 rounds without floating one on the carrier. I have no idea why USFW got so bent out of shape about the floating fourth round. If people are going to cheat, they are going to cheat. Hunters are for the most part on their honor anyway. There aren't enough game wardens to watch everyone.

If the change I made in the gun is illegal well USFW can kiss my a--. I bought the gun to use in Argentina where there are no shell limits and the USFW has no jurisdiction. Really they can go to hell for screwing up a good gun with their petty rules and fear of someone cheating. Just a bunch of bureaucrats of the same ilk that are screwing up the Gulf of Mexico with their rules of what can and cannot be done.
 
Actually, Argentina ranches use Beretta 39X series guns, but that is beside the point.

Why didn't you contact them, and restate your problem?

I am not going to say it is cured until it goes a thousand rounds without a jam or cleaning but this is the best run it has ever had.

Actually, most folks have their guns cleaned at lunch, but that is your thing.

Maybe it was the ammo you were using? What was it?
 
Well no ranch I have been to has used anything but Benelli autos. Beretta doubles were used and that was it. There are a lot of dove shooting ranches in Argentina. I am sure that some do use the guns you say but I really believe Benelli is the most used there. Of course Beretta and Benelli are really the same company. The ranches like the Benellis because they can go a day of shooting there which can be 2,000 rounds without a cleaning and without jamming. Not many gas guns can do that. Plus they are simple to maintain.

I didn't bother contacting Benelli again because I throughly explained the problem and told them what I thought it was. All I got back from them was a stupid form letter. All they did was clean the gun which I already had done. What would be the point of talking to them again? So I can send it back, spend money on shipping and have it gone for a month with nothing done to it?

I knew what the problem was and I fixed it. I have a friend that has the identical gun and his jams all the time too. He is going to do the same thing. Oh, his has been back to Benelli also and still jams.
 
I didn't see the rest of your rely. Well I never had my gun cleaned at lunch there. Besides that I have put over a thousand rounds before lunch.

I used all sorts of ammo like I explained and they all jammed. That is beside the point because the gun was designed to use in Argentina where mostly you get horrible ammo. Caza ammo is the worst I have ever used. I have found better ammo in Mozambique. But it mostly works through the old Benellis, except of course when there is a total dud which happens. I even have found them with the primer seated upside down! How they did that is beyond me.

If this gun jams with Federal, Winchester AA, Remington, it is never going to work with Caza.
 
Glad you got it fixed, but you also realize that any warranty is now void, so if something else goes bad, you'll need to find a local smith...

Good luck in Argentina!
 
Yes, I realize the warranty is no longer valid but what good is a gun that doesn't work? I liked the feel, balance, and the way the gun shoots when it did shoot. But a gun that jams all the time is worthless. The way I saw it, I had a choice of selling it or fixing it. I knew how to fix and it didn't cost me a thing to do so. I have had the older Benellis before so I am not worried about warranties. If something does go wrong, it can be easily fixed. There just aren't that many parts on Benellis.

I think Benellis is going to move to their new gun, the Vinci, a whole new design that really sounds interesting. However when I last looked it wasn't available in a 20 gauge.

USFW ruined the older model in my opinion. They even put that notch in the target guns now. I really don't know why they would do that in a gun that isn't designed for hunting. Maybe they didn't want to have two different models so to speak.

Anyway the problem is easily fixed for those that have access to a tig welder and milling machines. I'm happy with the gun now.
 
Glad you have the skills and equipment to fix that stuff...I'd be shaking my head and make it worse......:D

Perhaps you have a new sideline business venture............
 
Well to be honest with you, I don't have the skills! I can barely weld, no I should say I can't weld at all! I just happen to own part of a company that has people that can do those things and do them well. Actually any machinist can do this job no problem. To a machinist this to no problem, not even a bit of a challenge. If one doesn't have access to a machinist, well a welder familiar with tig welding could fill in the notch and then the owner could go at it with a file to make it even. That would take a while but it anyone could do it with a little work and patience.

Really, if you Google "Benelli Jams" you will see all kinds of posts. That was not the case when the gun was introduced. In fact it made its name as the gun that didn't jam. They change it, not because they wanted to but rather because they had to. It isn't difficult to change back to how it was designed to work. It is the real cure. Sending the gun back to Benelli won't help because their hands are tied. They cannot convert the guns back to how they were. Stupid, but true. Our government at work!

Sideline business? No way! We wouldn't get involved in anything that could bring the wrath of the Feds down upon us! Like I said, any machine shop can do this. There is no specialist skill involved. There are welders and machinists in nearly every town in the US. All you have to tell them is to fill the rear notch and even it out.
 
Hi, i'm from Argentina, benelli is one of the most popular brand alongside with Beretta and Perazzi here in Argentina.
The last batch of Benellis, were not that good, the reasson of this is simple, the people that runs Beretta Gallery Argentina, instead of getting the guns straight from Italy they bring them from the US.
A friend of mine bought a Benelli M4, till the last year, the M4 that they did sell here, was the one with the right stock and no ammo limitation, but now we are getting the ones that are made for US civilian market......


Btw if you are in a Ranch in Argentina tell them to give these brands of ammo:
Fiocchi(The version made in Argentina), Mirage, S&B,Armusa(Spanish brand) etc that's the ammo we use when we want to hunt, but some people rather save 2 dollars and get cheap ammo.
Brands like Orbea, Stopping Power, CBC, etc they are just cheap crap not worth using.
 
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