Huge wild boar taken with AR-style rifle

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Bart Noir

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I debated between the Semi-auto Rifle and the Legal and this sub-forum, and ended up here.

Big Dang Hog

My point is that it was clearly taken with an AR type weapon, thus providing even more proof (in general media) that ARs can be hunting guns. And we need this sort of good press.

Anybody know what caliber that guy used? And is there a bayonet lug on that one :D

Bart Noir
 
Thought so, but his hand sort of blocked the full view of the magazine. I thought it might have been a .300 Blackout, which would have been a tad underpowered for this beasty, IMHO.

Those tusks are simply scary. If they were being driven by 500 pounds of angry hog and were at my knee level, I'd want one of these .300 Mag AR rifles, only with a short-range optic:

NEMO carbine

Bart Noir
 
Looks like a .308 AR.

I think my .450 Bushmaster AR would also work quite well, even on a monster like that.

Hope they like pork. They're going to be eating a lot of it.
 
Currently homeworking a precision 6.8spc upper that will replace my R700 .308 as primary white-tail rifle. There are enough AR calibers out there to cover the spectrum of North-American game. Currently I see for sale everything from .22lr to .300Winmag.

There are of course some places that prohibit hunting with semi-autos, but like the movement to legalize hunting with suppressors (that picks up a few states per year), I think it's only a matter of time before every hunter can make a very solid case for owning at least one good lower receiver and AT LEAST A FEW uppers.
 
I absolutely despise game pictures taken like the one in the OP which try to exaggerate the size of the game by putting the hunter some indeterminate distance in the background and then taking the picture with a small aperture so that everything is in focus regardless of how far from the camera it is.

If the boar is huge, be proud of it and have your picture taken with your hand on it or the rifle resting against it so everyone can see what a monster it is in TRUE perspective. If you have to stage the picture to make it look like a monster then everyone is going to think that maybe it's not really a monster after all.

Maybe it's all true and the boar really is huge and really does weigh a quarter ton--but the fact that the picture was set up to exaggerate the size of the animal makes me suspicious of the whole thing.

It would be like a situation where someone was introduced to the president and got to shake his hand but then faked a picture of the two of them playing golf together. Why wasn't it enough to just go with the real picture instead of trying to make things look different than they really are?
 
I agree with John. Looks like the hunting community is taking some lessons from the fishing community.

Ever see a picture of a guy holding an average bass, and claim it was 10 lbs based on the scale of the fish to the person holding it? The tell in those cases is looking at the fingers! Based upon those photos alone, you'd pray none of them were proctologists!
 
I think tweaking the picture is silly. I think the amount of extraneous junk he stuck on his AR is silly. But any gun is a good gun. (except a hi-power :D)
 
I don't think he was trying for a forced perspective shot. He looks to be directly behind it. You have to pick a place to pose for the shot. If you want the length of the animal to fill up the shot you either stand in front or behind. If you stand in front, you kind of block off the view of the animal. Behind is a natural choice to me. He probably wasn't concerned about assuaging the concerns of people on the internet when he posed for the shot. It's a pretty big hog, but it's not the biggest by a long shot. I don't understand why you guys think he would lie about this one.

That is a lot of crap on the rifle! You AR types do like to accessorize. You probably dress more fashionably than the rest of us as well.
 
I don't think he was trying for a forced perspective shot. He looks to be directly behind it.
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Appearing to be "directly behind it" is exactly the point of a forced perspective shot.

There are lots of ways to take shots of game. There's only one way to do the forced perspective thing--exactly the way it's done in the picture. Even if the hunter wants to be behind the game animal, the photographer can take the shot from a normal standing position so the perspective isn't misleading instead of lying on the ground to make sure that there's no frame of reference available to allow the viewer to determine how far behind the animal the hunter is.
I don't understand why you guys think he would lie about this one.
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I'm not claiming he is lying. Honestly, I think it's all probably pretty above board. But the picture was intentionally taken to make the animal look even bigger than it really was and that irritates me to no end. It clouds the whole story, in my opinion and creates the appearance that the hunter is trying to be misleading.
 
I don't think he was trying for a forced perspective shot
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Andy, I do think the guy was trying for forced perspective. It is a very common ploy performed to enhance the size of the prize visually against something of a relatively known size, in this case, the hunter.

I don't understand why you guys think he would lie about this one.
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As John noted, nobody is saying he lied, but that he used forced perspective in the purported documentary evidence of the size of the hog. It isn't like people don't regularly use forced perspective and then DO LIE about what is in the image, particularly with amazingly-sized animals.

Here is one of my favorites...
http://huntdrop.com/hunt/giant-wild-boar-shot-in-conroe-texas

It is also a big hog, but you know the hog's head isn't as wide as a truck door or giant compared to the man's head, but that is the perspective shown to make it look bigger. In this case, the image IS part of a lie. The claim is that the image is from Conroe, Texas, but it is from Turkey.

The .50 Caliber Kid who killed a giant feral hog is another such forced perspective image. In this case, much of the story was also a LIE. The hog wasn't feral and was actually a fully domesticated Duroc named Fred.
http://www.imediaethics.org/News/129/Alabamas_monster_pig_hoax__one_year_later.php
http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-big-pig.html

Compare the size of Jamison's head to the snout of the pig in those images. His head is smaller than the light colored hairless part of the nose, but when a picture is taken with Jamison actually close to the pig, you can see the pig isn't nearly as large as it was made to appear.
http://www.quotednews.com/2013/11/26/jamison-stone-11-year-old-boy-kills-hogzilla-2-video/

Most of the supposed record-sized rattlesnake stories also use forced perspective and include lies...
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/15ftrattler.asp
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/snakes/ss/Eastern-Diamondback-Rattlesnake-Pictures.htm
http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/cour...cle_8803ca63-10a7-5dda-8412-3dad01258ae0.html

This last one is particularly interesting to your view. The guy in the photo is just holding up a big snake. The image was then stolen and the information changed about the size and location of the snake. He didn't promote the image other than to put it on his FB page with the correct information.

So you see how this works? When there is deception in the documentary evidence, whether you think it was intentional or not, often will lead people to conclude there is deception elsewhere that IS intentional as it is a common practice with such high profile sensations.

That is a lot of crap on the rifle! You AR types do like to accessorize. You probably dress more fashionably than the rest of us as well.
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Actually, no, it isn't, not for a night hunter. He could very well just be using a bolt gun, scope, light, and bipod and still have the same amount of "crap" as the hunter does in the image who has a NV scope, IR illuminator, and grip pod. In short, the same number of accessories common to night hunters, the only superfluous aspect either way would be the bipod/grip pod. A lot of daylight hunters use these as well, however.

So not dressed more fashionably, but hunting "more smartly" for the conditions.
 
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That's done so often I hardly look at the "photos" any more !
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Same here.

Buddy of mine sent me a pics. taken in this fashion of a nice buck that was shot here in Ohio a couple years ago. Although the buck had a nice rack and probably went well north of 200lb., the way the pics. was taken, made the buck look as though he went well north of 400lb. and had antler mass of about a foot thick. Based on size comparison, the hunter behind the deer looked like a ten yr. old. :rolleyes:

Just ruined the pics.
 
I'm also suspicious of the way every one of the pics taken is composed. Why is the hunter never in front of or directly beside the hog?

eta: plus it's a private hunting ranch getting lots of free publicity now... lots of incentive to exaggerate this.
 
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