How to stump an "anti"...EVERY TIME...?

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Lavan had a great come-back for his encounter with an anti. I only wish that I had thought of that one (read his post titled "I STUMPED an anti").

What are some of the best responses to anti-gun comments that you have made?
 
I heard a good one once whe a guy I know was arguing with an anti who wouldn't ever have a gun in the house. It went along the lines of "So you don't believe in guns, huh? Do you believe in God?"
Anti: "What does that have to do with anything?"
Gunner: "Well, I'll tell ya one thing for sure - when some jerk is kicking in your back door some dark night, you're going to do two things - you're going to call for a man with a gun to come save your butt, and you're going to pray to God that he gets there in time! You may die because you 'don't believe in guns' and won't take resposibility for your own safety. You won't fight for your own life, but you think some underpaid civil servant should do it for you, do I understand your position correctly???"
It left the anti just stammering on the verge of impoding/wetting himself. It was a joy to watch.
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I ask if they believe that Blacks should be allowed to vote. Very few will answer no, so I ask them whether the Jim Crow laws, literacy tests and poll taxes that prevented Blacks from voting were justified. Again they will answer no.

I ask them if they believe in the right to self-defense. Very few will answer no. So I point out that depriving lawful citizens of the means to exercise that right is like depriving Blacks of the vote through those bad old laws. They still had the right on paper, but no way to use it.

Finally, I ask them if they expect a gun ban to be enforced by the same admirable and efficient law enforcement methods that have kept our streets free of illegal drugs for the past 30 years.
 
I read this somewhere and am waiting for my chance to use it: an anti type made the statement that when the founding fathers provide for the right to keep and bear arms they were thinking of muskets not machine guns. The reply was that if that was true then freedom of speech would only apply to things written with a quill pen on parchment, not computers with word processors!
 
Whenever an anti brings up the topic of gun registration, I always tell him that if there is a list of all gun owners, there also is, by definition, a list of everyone that doesn't own guns. Given the great pains our government goes through to protect confidential information (please note tone of heavy sarcasm here :rolleyes: ), both lists will soon be publicly available. Then I ask, if a criminal wants to break into a house for an easy heist, where would they go first???

It usually gets very, very quiet...
 
Ask them if they are proud that they don't own a gun. Most of the time they will say yes. Then ask them to publicly display their pride with a sign in their front yard telling everyone that they dont have a gun. If they say they don't have time, volunteer to help them out!

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"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force."

--Ayn Rand, in "The Nature of Government"
 
Koolau -- I wrote a letter to the editor of the Denver Post on that theme when they were debating whether or not to make handgun permits public. I pointed out that if the permits were made public it would be quite simple to figure out who would be the easiest marks for attack. Sadly the letter was not published.

Hoosierboy - Here is the link (often repeated, but it continues to be one of the best things out there to show antis the error of their ways) to the "Gun Free Zone" signs and merchandise.
http://www.frii.com/~buchanan/hgc/

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I always tell them: "I'll vote to ban guns right now, 'cause I'm sick ofthe rhetoric. It's time to get it on! By the way, being as you are anti-gun, you probably don't have any in the house. What's your wife look like?" I prefer the scare them approach. You can't change their minds, you can only alter their perception of reality. Or alter the features on their head.

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"Vote with a Bullet."
 
I've been told that the 2nd Amendment needs to be 'reinterpreted' and 'modernized' due to our changing society. Our forefathers could not have known of the 'deadly' weapons of today, thereby making the 2A obsolete. (If they are religious...) I reply that the 10 Commandments need to be reinterpreted and modernized due to our changing society. Moses could not have possibley known of the life style changes and choices of today, thereby making the 10Cs obsolete.

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Refuse to be a "helpless" victim.
Knowing Your Rights WAGC in Indiana
 
Ask questions. That's the only real way to get anywhere with these folks. And it works, too.

I usually start off down this path:

"Do I have the right to be safe and secure in my home?" (You'll almost certainly get a "Yes" to this, and it is important to ask questions that will almost always result in a "Yes" in this process.)

"Do I also have the right to protect my spouse and children?"

"Does that right extend outside of my home?"

"What is the best method available to me to defend my family and myself?" (Wait for the silence that will follow. They know it's a gun, but they won't want to say it.)

Follow-up questions will usually seal the deal.
 
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