First off let me say safes have always fascinated me for some reason. The thread on safes is full of great information and is really an eye opener.
This has got me wondering.... let's say it is a given that you buy the best "safe"/RSC/whatever you can afford, also that "Ocean's 11" is not going to try and hit your "safe"- How can you install said container to provide the best protection? I am very interested in what the security experts here have to say.
Allow me to start.
1) Conceal the safe. Build it in somehow to look like cabinets, do something to attempt in an attempt to hide the opening.
2) Have an alarm system- this will provide layered security.
3) Bolt it to the floor- possibly/preferably cement flooring? Possibly pour a footing so that if your garage floods the bottom of the safe will be 6-8 inches off the floor.
4) Do not have the safe door facing the open garage door? If a structure is built around the safe then it would make it difficult to attach strap to safe and yank it out.
5) Build a structure around the safe. This would serve 2 purposes. The first would be to force entrance through the door where the best protection is built in and the other would be to force the burglar to use multiple different tools and strategies to defeat the safe- all of which would take time and noise. A good suggestion from the other thread is to build a rebar/concrete reinforced wall on 4 sides (concrete floor bottom). If you wanted to go up a notch up you could bolt 1/8" or 1/16" plate to the outside cinderblock wall for impact tool resistance for probably not too much money or mudd in some chicken wire to the outside. Also, would a 2-4" space between the wall and the safe help provide air circulation and prevent water condensation/rust or should it be as close to the wall as possible to provide more structural integrity?
6) Fireproofing. On a cost basis it seems the cheapest way to "fireproof" the safe is to actually fireproof the garage- i.e. a sprinkler system. Now I looked into this awhile ago and it was "only" going to be about 1500-2K to retrofit this to my entire house. I imagine it would be even less to do one room or just over the safe. Also the cinderblock wall should provide some protection from this.
7) finally, and this may or may not be a good idea but I have seen pepper spray that is actuated by an alarm or noise threshold which can be installed on the ceiling of the garage.
I am no expert, but am interested in what everyone, including the experts have to say.
Thanks,
Olazul
This has got me wondering.... let's say it is a given that you buy the best "safe"/RSC/whatever you can afford, also that "Ocean's 11" is not going to try and hit your "safe"- How can you install said container to provide the best protection? I am very interested in what the security experts here have to say.
Allow me to start.
1) Conceal the safe. Build it in somehow to look like cabinets, do something to attempt in an attempt to hide the opening.
2) Have an alarm system- this will provide layered security.
3) Bolt it to the floor- possibly/preferably cement flooring? Possibly pour a footing so that if your garage floods the bottom of the safe will be 6-8 inches off the floor.
4) Do not have the safe door facing the open garage door? If a structure is built around the safe then it would make it difficult to attach strap to safe and yank it out.
5) Build a structure around the safe. This would serve 2 purposes. The first would be to force entrance through the door where the best protection is built in and the other would be to force the burglar to use multiple different tools and strategies to defeat the safe- all of which would take time and noise. A good suggestion from the other thread is to build a rebar/concrete reinforced wall on 4 sides (concrete floor bottom). If you wanted to go up a notch up you could bolt 1/8" or 1/16" plate to the outside cinderblock wall for impact tool resistance for probably not too much money or mudd in some chicken wire to the outside. Also, would a 2-4" space between the wall and the safe help provide air circulation and prevent water condensation/rust or should it be as close to the wall as possible to provide more structural integrity?
6) Fireproofing. On a cost basis it seems the cheapest way to "fireproof" the safe is to actually fireproof the garage- i.e. a sprinkler system. Now I looked into this awhile ago and it was "only" going to be about 1500-2K to retrofit this to my entire house. I imagine it would be even less to do one room or just over the safe. Also the cinderblock wall should provide some protection from this.
7) finally, and this may or may not be a good idea but I have seen pepper spray that is actuated by an alarm or noise threshold which can be installed on the ceiling of the garage.
I am no expert, but am interested in what everyone, including the experts have to say.
Thanks,
Olazul