How to NOT shoot

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Keltyke

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OK, we've all seen countless threads on what to do if you have to draw. How many, where, tactics, calibers, gun types, etc.

Now, let's see some answers on how to NOT shoot. How to prevent getting into a situation where you're forced to draw. Let's face it, the perfect scenario is one where you get away and no one gets hurt. I'll start with a couple.

BE ALERT: Know what's going on around you at all times. Know who's around you at all times.

And following on that one...

If you see a bad scene developing, GET OUT. Drive off, walk away - separate yourself.

Now, let's hear some more.
 
Don't go to bars. My number #1 rule.

Watch your mirrors at traffic lights, and make sure you can see the back tires of the car ahead of you (room to maneuver).
 
One from the marines-
*Be polite, be respectfull, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet at all times.
Or something allong those things dont quote me word for word : D

P.S. isnt this a thread of what NOT to do? A little confused because you started it out by saying what to do. Just wondering im not trying to be smart.
 
Lavid

I like that! It's exactly right. If you think of yourself as representing more than just yourself, I think that goes a long way.

Also, it's what to do in order to avoid having to do something averse.
 
totally agree.

I really liked your post about having a plan on how to eliminate every one you come in contact with.

When I started my LE training for approaching vehicles on traffic stops my instructor told me just that. He said before you even walk up to a vehicle imagine how you would kill every last person in that vehicle because you might have to do just that.
 
What not to do:::::
Never get so involved with what you are doing that you forget to pay
attention to your surrounds and what is going on around you.
 
observe your surroundings and think of what if...

Use the force continuum...know when to leave or to defend, and to use the min amount force needed.

Words can bring on calm or bring rage in any situration.

If you are wrong say sorry I am a fault...I cutoff people while driving and apologize to them after knowing I did wrong, might be called a few words but it brings a dangerious stituration to an end quickly..
 
Do Not:
  • Go somewhere you wouldn't be willing to go to unarmed, unless you absolutely have to.
  • Get into verbal confrontations with anyone for any reason. Whatever it is likely doesn't matter. If It does, call the cops.
  • Try to detain someone for any crime short of murder / attempted murder.
  • Associate with people that you know to be narcotic users, even if they are recreational users.
 
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Don't go to bars. My number #1 rule.
Ditto

--Dave
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Double Ditto--- Been to a bar LITERALLY once in in my life. The evening ended with a fight over a racial comment made by a drunk college kid and about 15 cops with guns drawn. This was in a college town, not known for violence in ANY way.
 
Don't go to bars. My number #1 rule.
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Just find nicer bars. I love hanging out in the local pubs and have never had any trouble of any kind. From private clubs to holes-in-the-wall, theres often a great time to be had with no sign of danger or trouble. Stay away from seedy joints and you'll be fine.

Just remember: Alcohol and firearms don't mix. If you're going on a bender, leave your gun in the safe.
 
Stay away from seedy joints and you'll be fine.
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The "seedy joint" that caused my trouble was on Main St in a small city of 13k people with a murder rate numbered by the DECADE, 300yds from two police stations (city and county).

But in principle, I'd agree.
 
Nah, I break that rule all the time :) Besides, we don't have "nice" bars around here. Are you kidding me? This is pretty rural. "Urban" up here is Oak Harbor. Well, a good reason for not gg to bars, if you are a carrier, is you can't carry in a bar. Kinda defeats the purpose. But heck. A dive is expensive enough, a "nice" bar would just jack up the price. Why do that? And rich people are a-holes too! I can get a 6 and drink at home with my wife, and have a nicer time. I can just see it--

"Honey, let's go to Harry's and see how drunk we can get and still stay in Condition Yellow!"
 
Don't go to stupid places, to do stupid things, with stupid people.

Whoever said that, or whatever the exact quote happens to be if I fudged it, has a better than average grasp of the topic.

Of course, there is a certain assumption that the definition of "stupid" is known.
 
Stay away from "Stop and Robs" like 7-11. Not only does it save money to buy sodas and snacks at Wal-Mart or the grocery store in quantity and take them with you to work/school/wherever, but convenience mart and liquor stores are scum-magnets.
 
Erik is right, the "three stupids" will cut down on you odds of problems by 98%

Do not go stupid places with stupid people and do stupid things.
 
I have a few that most may not think about. Some of these might be common sense, but I’ll post them anyways...
1. When stopping at a red light, you want to SEE the back tires of the car in front of you. This is a rule of thumb is when you see the tires, that allows you to pull out if someone tries to attack you or you need to quickly get away. If you can see their tires, then you have enough room to quickly pull out and drive away (if your too close, you'll be locked in and that means you have drive forward, reverse, drive forward again, reverse again....etc.)
2. When parking in a large parking lot (or any for this scenario), park under the light pole. Just because it’s light when you go in doesn’t mean it'll be light when you come back out...
3. Speaking of parking lots, be familiar with your parking space in relation to the vehicles around you. If you're in a small car for example and you park between two vans, your car now has a "curtain" in front of it. When you leave the store, you cannot see your car or ANY possible attackers. Further, if you are attacked, there's a less chance that someone will see what's happening (because of the "curtain")
 
As mentioned, the 3 stupids are a great start.
I like to add don't be macho. It hurts to be laughed at, it's uncomfortable to have some SOB call you a little girl, or whatever. Suck it up, give a little curtsey, and move on. Your feelings are not worth a gunfight.
Don't be a hero. You've got enough trouble taking care of yourself and your family without taking care of the rest of the world.
Don't fight over property. If the BG is taking your TV out the back door, toss him the remote and call your insurance company. If the BG wants your car, give him the car and an extra $10 for gas money. Shooting it out over property will probably cost you far more than the property is worth.
 
Don't associate with people who create or attract trouble for BS reasons. It doesn't matter if they are friends or family.
 
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