How to change an an anti . . . sort of.

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One of my colleagues (A) told me the story of another colleague (B) who is anti NRA and anti gun ownership. Apparently B caught a stranger in his/her house stealing. B came to work shortly after that asking if anyone knew how he/she could buy a gun that was "untraceable." This seemed strange as B is normally a law abiding person so A questioned B. Apparently B wasn't so concerned about the government knowing about the gun as colleagues knowing about the gun. B didn't want the "public stigma" of being a known gun owner.

Amazing isn't it.

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- B didn't want the "public stigma" of being a known gun owner.

Well that's just sad.

I wonder though, maybe after a couple range trips ('B' would of course have to have shooting glasses with the built in nose and moustach so no one would recognize them) maybe 'B' would come around.
 
Public safety might be best served if he doesn't get a firearm. Some people just can't handle the responsibility of gun ownership.
 
What Dajowl said.

If he/she wants a gun, he better carefully consider the responsibility that is demanded of him/her, as well as the ramifications/consequences in the event that he/she (god forbid) has to use that gun.

This isn't something you just go out and buy on a whim without careful consideration IMHO.
 
I think it's typical actually. So many of the antis fit this mold to a tee. This guy cares enough about what his friends think that he would buy an "untraceable" gun to avoid them finding out. Of course I don't think he really fully understands what an untraceable gun actually is. All he really needs to do is buy a gun from a private seller if that is legal in his state and hope that he can trust that seller to keep his secrets from common knowledge.

Given some time at the range maybe he will find that what he needs, even more then an untraceable gun, is better friends :D
 
Choices leave consequences !!!

Public safety might be best served if he doesn't get a firearm. Some people just can't handle the responsibility of gun ownership.
That is right on the money. Personally, I do want to see more "Good" guns out there, not bad or dumb guns. The only thing that works for me in dealing with the Antis, is truth and facts. Regardless, every person has the God given right of self protection. ...... ;)

Be Safe !!!
 
Sounds like B must look up to Feinstein, Pelosi and others who have gun permits yet scream for control over others'.........

If that person is that anti gun, perhaps a nice dog and bear spray would be more palatable????
 
B didn't want the "public stigma" of being a known gun owner.
There are some folks who simply don't advertise their ownership. There have been times when I've been one of them.

That said, it appears this guy still considers the act of owning a gun a sin. By extension, he still holds us in contempt.
 
A lot of "antis'" are closet gun owners/shooters, for reasons of their own-fear of excommunication, being expelled from the "Party"-they choose to be very discreet, in the closet if you while-about their interest in firearms. We can point out to them that being a member of the RKBA community does not require any public signs of devotion but that when they are among us they will be welcomed with open arms.
 
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Person B doesn't want the public 'stigma' of being a gun owner among his/her colleagues, so he/she asks his/her colleagues for advice about how to get an 'untraceable' gun?

Does. Not. Compute.
 
But it goes both ways

"(B)" stepped in it, and may have set themselves up for a bad hair day in the event they bought an "untraceable" gun and used it to defend themselves.
Not being there first hand, I'd note that usually we are more influential if our first impression is positive, sometimes that means initially biting your tongue, Or critizing someones erroneous gun beliefs ;) .

I'd note if you moved into a very anti-gun neighborhood, it doesn't pay to advertise you have X quantity of killer handguns, Y nasty assault weapons, Z high power sniper rifles, and 4-5 digits of ammo.

We moved into such a neighborhood, but found out before stepping in it. We have been successful in talking to several neighbors on why responsible ownership is reasonable, and the neighbors still wave as they go by. Not bad for living in the most left wing city in Texas, and probably have more weapons than most of the neighborhood combined.
 
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Sounds like this person has been neutered/spayed in some fashion, he/she wants to own a gun and get a leg up on self defense, but is more concerned with the opinion of other people, why does he/she even bother having an opinion then?
 
We don't need to hide and opologize !!

B didn't want the "public stigma" of being a known gun owner.
Tell her that she is not alone as there are many "Closet" gun owners. I am private and protective but all who know me. Know I am a gun owner. I teach hunter safety so it's hardly a secret. Too many gun owners are afraid to speak up. A while back, I sat at a private dinner, next to a lady that started slamming the 2A and I gently reminded her that "Our" Constitution, is sovereign and not politicians or private opinions. I also reminded her that that 1A, gave r her the right to express her feelings. At our most recent meeting, her and her husband did not sit at our table, just whispered to each other. ... :cool:

Be Safe !!!
 
That is an amazing story. I wonder how B thought his/her colleagues would actually find out. It's not like 4473's are posted on the local telephone pole next to missing dogs and garage bands.

Very odd.
 
B didn't want the "public stigma" of being a known gun owner.

If B is so emotionally fragile as to worry about that much about what others think of them, then I fully agree with other posters: they're not mature enough to own a firearm.
 
If B is so emotionally fragile as to worry about that much about what others think of them, then I fully agree with other posters: they're not mature enough to own a firearm.
Let's all dial back a bit on the character judgments.

Outside my professional life, few of my acquaintances know I carry a gun. I deign not to bring it up for many reasons, none of which is emotional immaturity or cowardice. It's simply not always wise or appropriate for them to know.
 
Gun ownership, or public knowledge of one's gun ownership, could cause complications in some workplaces.

Not everybody is prepared for the hassles, nor capable of holding a solid debate, nor losing their job.
 
Is this person just extremely uninformed? I mean no one writes it up in the local paper when you buy a gun. At worst someone might see you at the gun shop. If that's your concern, buy FTF with cash, keep your mouth shut, problem solved. It's not buying dope, the forces of the law aren't going to swoop in and cart you off to the big house (unless it's NYC or something).
 
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