How much/many ammo/guns are enough?
- Thread starter Solitar
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Buy all you can afford, sell the rest you don`t need when the time comes. 
or trade for food.
It depends on a whole bunch of things.
How many in your family, where you live, what you know about survival, do you know how to shoot and when. You might want to learn to Bow Hunt,the bow is real quite. ( not much noise )Learning to trap animals, clean them, cook them etc.Check out some survival manuals. This can get quite involved, I hope you are up to it.
A hand gun,1. 12ga shot gun,2 rifles, 1. 22- 1. 30 cal.
Im sure some here can point you to a Web site that has all the survial food etc, listed,plus give you some of their thoughts on it.
You may not need it but it is better to be prepaired than not.
or trade for food.It depends on a whole bunch of things.
How many in your family, where you live, what you know about survival, do you know how to shoot and when. You might want to learn to Bow Hunt,the bow is real quite. ( not much noise )Learning to trap animals, clean them, cook them etc.Check out some survival manuals. This can get quite involved, I hope you are up to it.
A hand gun,1. 12ga shot gun,2 rifles, 1. 22- 1. 30 cal.
Im sure some here can point you to a Web site that has all the survial food etc, listed,plus give you some of their thoughts on it.
You may not need it but it is better to be prepaired than not.
oberkommando
New member
B9 Said it right, 1 handgun,12ga,2 semi rifles 1 223 1 308, 2 bolt rifles 1 22 1 30cal.
Jeff Thomas
New member
[For the lurkers here, who probably view the premise of this question as paranoid, I encourage you to start paying more attention to firearms legislation. For example, NY this week.]
You might also want to consider a selection of sidearms. Stainless steel revolvers for example, such as Ruger, should nearly always go bang when you need them ... .38 and .357. And, it would appear that the more concealable sidearms will be under the most pressure ... you might want to have a number of those, so that you and your family have the tools you might need.
Everyone has their own preferences ... you'll see a great deal of debate here about calibers and brands. I think it is wise to have your defensive firearms based upon the most common calibers ... .38, 9mm, .357 Mag, .45, .22, .223, 7.62 x 39, .30-06 and .308.
You also might want to consider spare parts, magazines, etc.
Live and let live. Regards from AZ
[This message has been edited by Jeff Thomas (edited August 13, 2000).]
You might also want to consider a selection of sidearms. Stainless steel revolvers for example, such as Ruger, should nearly always go bang when you need them ... .38 and .357. And, it would appear that the more concealable sidearms will be under the most pressure ... you might want to have a number of those, so that you and your family have the tools you might need.
Everyone has their own preferences ... you'll see a great deal of debate here about calibers and brands. I think it is wise to have your defensive firearms based upon the most common calibers ... .38, 9mm, .357 Mag, .45, .22, .223, 7.62 x 39, .30-06 and .308.
You also might want to consider spare parts, magazines, etc.
Live and let live. Regards from AZ
[This message has been edited by Jeff Thomas (edited August 13, 2000).]
Common calibers a must and the best would be stardard military calibers.A lot will depend on the terran.Open country you might think about a real long range rifle.It would give you an edge.
I am a FN nut so I am well set up with spare parts and 2 guns.No matter what anybody says I think handguns is allmost useless if SHTF.Be better off carring an extra couple of mags for the rifle.Same weight as handgun and ammo but do you more good.
My opinion of course.
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Bob--- Age and deceit will overcome youth and speed.
I'm old and deceitful.
I am a FN nut so I am well set up with spare parts and 2 guns.No matter what anybody says I think handguns is allmost useless if SHTF.Be better off carring an extra couple of mags for the rifle.Same weight as handgun and ammo but do you more good.
My opinion of course.
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Bob--- Age and deceit will overcome youth and speed.
I'm old and deceitful.
Handguns are particularly good when firing in proximity to friendlies. As are blackpowder weapons, particularly precussion revolvers. Lot less barrier penetration, and a lot more surface area to badguy contact and resultant energy transfer. Also blackpowder and ammo is extremely easy to make at home compared to high power weaponry. Black powder is an exceptional backup option, and I think should be kept as an auxillary to a modern arsenal. When using pyrodex as much as possible, the smoke factor is also much more tolerable, and indoor defensive fire can be used without chocking on your weapon's fumes and setting off the smoke alarm.
Also, bayonets can be affixed to black powder weapons, which makes you infinitely more deadly than even a main battle tank
To round our your arsenal, a good selection of bladed weapons should be kept too. They can be quite useful for quiet disposal of intruders when you must take them out without alerting their buddies. Crossbows are also useful in this role, though not as effective against body armor as axes and broadswords.
Basically if you can get two weapons for each likely need, then you will be well off if there is a social collapse. Assuming there is no social collapse, it's really a matter of getting whatever you want really. Still, there is always a bit of social dischord, so at least one purely self defense weapon is a logical addition to your recreational picks.
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Also, bayonets can be affixed to black powder weapons, which makes you infinitely more deadly than even a main battle tank
To round our your arsenal, a good selection of bladed weapons should be kept too. They can be quite useful for quiet disposal of intruders when you must take them out without alerting their buddies. Crossbows are also useful in this role, though not as effective against body armor as axes and broadswords.
Basically if you can get two weapons for each likely need, then you will be well off if there is a social collapse. Assuming there is no social collapse, it's really a matter of getting whatever you want really. Still, there is always a bit of social dischord, so at least one purely self defense weapon is a logical addition to your recreational picks.
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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist
The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
MP Freeman
New member
Tom T Hall song:
Faster horses, younger women, older wiskey, more money.
Gun-nut song:
Faster firearms, younger ammo, older pre-ban weapons and magazines, more money.
Get my point?
Faster horses, younger women, older wiskey, more money.
Gun-nut song:
Faster firearms, younger ammo, older pre-ban weapons and magazines, more money.
Get my point?
P
PreserveFreedom
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Well since you can never have too many, I guess you can never have enough either.
How many's enough? 
There's NEVER enough, but my thinking is this: Whenever you need to rent a Ryder truck, just for the sole purpose of moving your collection, you're almost there.
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"Rise like lions after slumber in invanquishable number - Shake your chains to earth like dew which in sleep had fallen on you - Ye are many - They are few."
-Percy Bysshe Shelly (1792-1822)
There's NEVER enough, but my thinking is this: Whenever you need to rent a Ryder truck, just for the sole purpose of moving your collection, you're almost there.
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"Rise like lions after slumber in invanquishable number - Shake your chains to earth like dew which in sleep had fallen on you - Ye are many - They are few."
-Percy Bysshe Shelly (1792-1822)
nevadagunnut
Inactive
Hear, hear to the previous postings.
I suspect a significant percentage of gun purchases are being made in advance of increasing legal restrictions in the future. Is my friendly, neighborhood FFL alone in seeing his sales jump during the Clinton presidency? He can't stand the guy, but admits he has been great for business.
I further suspect it is not accidental that many of the calibers mentioned by previous posters are common military rounds.
I suspect a significant percentage of gun purchases are being made in advance of increasing legal restrictions in the future. Is my friendly, neighborhood FFL alone in seeing his sales jump during the Clinton presidency? He can't stand the guy, but admits he has been great for business.
I further suspect it is not accidental that many of the calibers mentioned by previous posters are common military rounds.
Without reading any replies to the original post, I'll just add this comment: I don't know how many/much is enough, but I do know that there is no such thing as too much money, too many guns, or too much ammo.
As many/much as you can afford plus 20%!
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Shoot straight & make big holes, regards, Richard at The Shottist's Center
As many/much as you can afford plus 20%!
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Shoot straight & make big holes, regards, Richard at The Shottist's Center
Bob's Minimum Loadout:
Rifles in each of the following calibers:
5.56x45, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, .22 LR
Handguns in each of the following calibers:
9mm, .45 ACP
Shotgun chambered for 3" 12-ga. shells.
Minimum of 1,000 rounds for each caliber, with the possible exception of the shotgun (maybe 500), and I would have 2-3 thousand .22 LR on hand, maybe more.
To me, that ought to get you going pretty well, and you can do just about anything you want or need if you are so outfitted.
Rifles in each of the following calibers:
5.56x45, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, .22 LR
Handguns in each of the following calibers:
9mm, .45 ACP
Shotgun chambered for 3" 12-ga. shells.
Minimum of 1,000 rounds for each caliber, with the possible exception of the shotgun (maybe 500), and I would have 2-3 thousand .22 LR on hand, maybe more.
To me, that ought to get you going pretty well, and you can do just about anything you want or need if you are so outfitted.
David Scott
New member
Spend all of your ice cream and beer money on firearms, you'll lose weight and be ready when the droppings hit the fan. Seriously, it's easier to give a minimum than a maximum. If you can barely afford to feed the kiddos and pay the rent, one good defensive handgun will get you by. If you just cashed in your stock options from another dot-com IPO, celebrate with another gun.
My ex brother in law was a militaria collector, had a house full of M1s and 1911s and Lee-Enfields and Lugers and P-38s and Nambus and such. His friends thought of it as a museum but every damn one of them WORKED (except maybe the Nambu POS). He was majorly loaded for anyting that came along, and if anyone said he had too many guns, he'd go innocent-eyed and talk about6 preserving our patriotic history.
My ex brother in law was a militaria collector, had a house full of M1s and 1911s and Lee-Enfields and Lugers and P-38s and Nambus and such. His friends thought of it as a museum but every damn one of them WORKED (except maybe the Nambu POS). He was majorly loaded for anyting that came along, and if anyone said he had too many guns, he'd go innocent-eyed and talk about6 preserving our patriotic history.
MountainGun44
New member
Everyone should have the following:
(1)Street Sweeper
(1)Saturday Night Special
(1)Assault Rifle
(1)Pocket Rocket
(1)Sniper Rifle
(1)Plastic Handgun
(1)Junk Gun
1000 rounds of Cop Killer Bullets
and an NRA sticker
(1)Street Sweeper
(1)Saturday Night Special
(1)Assault Rifle
(1)Pocket Rocket
(1)Sniper Rifle
(1)Plastic Handgun
(1)Junk Gun
1000 rounds of Cop Killer Bullets
and an NRA sticker