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Manhunt for Second Suspected Terrorist

ABCNEWS.com
As investigators learn more about the Algerian man charged with tryi ng to smuggle explosives into the United States, border guards are on high alert and
Americans are being warned to travel with caution at year’s end.

Police say Ahmed Ressam, who was arrested at a border checkpoint last week, has been linked to Said Atmani, believed to be the head of a Montreal crime
ring that has funded terrorist groups. Ressam was charged Friday with bringing nitroglycerin into the United States, having false ID and making false
statements to U.S. Customs officials.

According to Montreal Police spokesman Andre Poirier, Ressam, 32, was jailed for a few weeks in Montreal last year for stealing laptop computers and
cellular phones from cars.

“We have reason to believe that the money that was gathered after selling those goods was distributed to some terrorism groups,” he said.

The FBI and CIA are also said to be looking for possible ties between Ressam and Osama bin Laden, the man U.S. officials believe leads a terrorist
network involved in the bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania last year.

The Seattle Times reported in Sunday’s editions that Ressam may be indicted by a secret grand jury before a scheduled appearance in U.S. District
Court in Seattle on Wednesday.

Massive Manhunt for Accomplices
Meanwhile, FBI and CIA agents are engaged in a continent-wide manhunt for possible accomplices who they say may have already arrived in the United
States or are trying to cross the border.

Hotel sources told ABCNEWS they were questioned by two officers of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police about Ressam and another man who stayed
at the hotel from mid-November to mid-December.

A maid said Ressam and the other man spent hours locked in a back room where she saw many plastic containers. They rarely allowed the room to be
cleaned, she said, but that it smelled like eggs — an odor similar to that emitted by sulphur, a common bomb-making component.

When Ressam was captured Tuesday, he was carrying a Canadian passport and two driver’s licenses, all of which contained false names. Ressam
reportedly had two ferry ticket stubs in his possession — suggesting a companion may have walked off the boat — when he was arrested in Port Angeles, a
port city of 20,000 about 60 miles northwest of Seattle.

A reservation for the night of Dec. 14 was made under the name of Benni Noris — the name on Ressam’s false passport — at a motor inn in Seattle. The
motel was just blocks from the city’s landmark Space Needle, planned site for a huge New Year’s celebration.

Ressam was already wanted by Canadian authorities. There is a Canada-wide immigration arrest warrant and a British Columbia-wide arrest warrant out
for him for theft of less than $5,000, according to the complaint filed in federal court in Seattle.

On Sunday, police found a van belonging to Ressam and registered in the Noris name in the east end of Montreal, police said. A security perimeter was set
up and the area was evacuated.

Police also have been searching the Montreal apartment that Ressam reportedly shared with Atmani.

Americans Warned to be Cautious
Since Ressam’s arrest, international scrutiny has focused on Canada as a popular haven for terrorist groups. Security analyst Vincent Cannistraro said in
today’s editions of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer that at least 50 known terrorist groups are present in Canada because they face fewer legal restrictions than
in the United States.

“A number of terrorist groups find Canada a benign area in terms of fund-raising, organizing and presence,” he said. The danger from terrorists
operating in Canada was previously thought to be aimed mainly outside the United States, but Ressam’s arrest has changed that thinking, Cannistraro said.

In the wake of Ressam’s arrest, officials are warning Americans everywhere to be cautious. Security especially has been heightened at the 300 points of
entry into the United States, the U.S. Customs Service says. A fenced perimeter has been constructed around the Seattle Center — site of the Space Needle
and a New Year’s bash expected to draw 60,000 people.

On Sunday, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger said, “This is a period of heightened risk of terrorist actions involving Americans. I would say
Americans should be vigilant as they go about their plans for the New Years.”

Over the weekend, more than 200 people were arrested in Pakistan in the wake of reports that U.S. citizens there could be targeted by terrorists.

Contributing to this report were ABCNEWS.com’s Jonathan Dube in Seattle, Josh Fine in Montreal, Beth Tribolet in Vancouver and Len Tepper in New
York. Also contributing were The Associated Press and Reuters.
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What They Found
The bomb-making materials customs agents said they found in
Ressam’s car were:
• 118 pounds of a fine white powder, identified as urea, contained in
10 plastic bags;
• two jars of a yellowish liquid identified as nitroglycerine;
• two plastic bags filled with a crystalline sulfate powder;
• four black boxes, each containing a circuit board connected to a
Casio brand watch and a 9-volt battery connector.
“Preliminary analysis disclosed that when these materials are
combined with a detonator, it would produce a large explosive
device,” the complaint said.

Urea and nitroglycerine are materials commonly used in
explosives. The FBI concluded that nitroglycerine and 1,200 to
1,800 pounds of urea nitrate were used in the 1993 bombing of the
World Trade Center in New York City.

Bombs made from urea have 92 percent of the explosive power of
TNT. A bomb made from 118 pounds of urea would destroy a car 81
feet away and knock a 12-inch-thick brick wall off its foundation
from 76 feet away, according to government sources.

Magistrate David E. Wilson authorized the destruction of almost
all of the volatile nitroglycerine, citing safety concerns. Some of the
material is being retained for further testing.

For detonation, the boxes contained TPUs, or timing power units,
experts told ABCNEWS. TPUs are sophisticated detonators seen in
terrorist attacks around the world but rarely in the United States,
according to FBI agents.
 
news flash from DC:
FBI Looking For Suspicious Vehicle http://www.wjla.com/index-b.htm
The warning issued by the State Department
that says Americans could be targets for
terrorism is hitting close to home. Police in
Maryland, Virginia, and D.C. are helping the FBI.
look for a suspicious vehicle whose occupants
are considered armed and dangerous. The
1989 blue Mitsubishi van with Texas plates
(XPS-47P) was last seen at a gas station in
Capital Heights. No one has linked the
occupants of the van to terrorist threats, but
officials are not taking anything for granted. The
woman who sold the van says she sold it to
"foreigners." Any information should be given to
the FBI or police.
 
"The woman who sold the van says she sold it to 'foreigners'."

To those that get pulled over - my apologies in advance to anyone who looks like a "foreigner", especially those of Semitic heritage.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the woman who stated the above was a "foreigner" herself and was talking about some Anglos.

I just hope to Hell everybody keeps their cool and they don't let the media whip up
another witch hunt.

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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
 
What suprises me is that they are waiting until literally the last minute to start bringing explosives over. After all, a well financed terrorist has had plenty of time and opportunity to get everything they could want and need for whatever they want to do, it's not like there hasn't been time to prepare...

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com
www.bladeforums.com
 
They're just trying to catch all the procrastinating terrorists. The others are to much of a pain to track down. =0p

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Gun control isnt about guns, Its about control.
 
That's another good thing about living here in the heartland vs. big coastal city. At least up until 1995 I believed that if you've got a tornado storm shelter and eat right, you should live a good long life here. Now I'm not so sure after the bombing, but I still think future domestic terrorists will hit better terror targets (i.e. large population centers).

In Cali, for instance, in addition to having many good terrorist targets, you guys have four seasons: fires, flood, mudslide, and earthquake.
 
One of the many things that I learned while in the military was that it is VERY easy to damage or destroy "targets" outside military installations...

If you are out this New Year's eve... carry your weapon if you have a CC permit... and be aware of what's going on... and remember.. DON'T be an idiot and drink so much that you aren't aware of what's going on around you...

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Stand against evil, lest evil have its way...
 
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ALL TERRORISM ALL THE TIME! http://24.142.63.193/forum/a3861359a2426.htm
News/Current Events News
Posted on 12/22/1999 12:33:30 PST by Michael Rivero

This last week reads like a plot line right out of a cheap movie.

A known terrorist in Canada gets some nitroglycerin, builds some timers out of Casio watches and some Radio Shack parts, and gets caught smuggling them into
the United States. A couple days later, another Algerian gets nabbed in Vermont. Today it's a van full of explosives.

Most people reading this article are smart enough to understand that real life is hardly anything like how the movies depict it. Women do NOT look like fashion
models while doing the housework. Our living rooms do not have keylights and kickers. We don't all drive like Steve McQueen. Overloaded equipment blows a
fuse; it doesn't erupt into showers of sparks, and nobody sleeps with those funny "L" shaped sheets that always come up to the woman's neck but only cover the
guy to his waist.

The movies have bad guys that look and act like bad guys, and good guys that look and act like good guys. In real life, it's much harder to tell the difference.
Common sense tells you that people who actually look like villains and walk around sneering like villains will probably not have other people hang around them
long enough to be villainized. Take Charles Keating, who bribed five Senators and whose Lincoln Savings and Loan stole more money from his customers that all
holdups, muggings, and burglaries combined for that entire year. Good looking man. Snappy dresser. Great smile. Get the picture? Successful crooks don't look
like crooks. Successful terrorists don't look like terrorists.

So, the biggest problem with the story about Ahmed Ressam, the man arrested trying to bring all this "terrorist" equipment into the United states, plus the Vermont
arrest and the van, is that it is all just too obvious. Ahmed "terrorist" equipment looks like movie props designed to appear unequivocally "bad" when displayed in
the media. Bottles of nitroglycerin. Timers built with Casio watches. All intended for some nefarious ends were it not for the heroes of the US Customs service and
their sharp investigative eyes.

But, on examination, this story of impending terrorism falls apart pretty quickly. It appears as contrived as the plotline of "Murder On The Orient Express", a
collection of obvious plot devices designed to engage the emotions (but not the intellect) of the audience.

Let's start with the jars of nitroglycerin. Nitro is no easier to obtain in Canada than it is in the United States. Does it make sense to go to all the trouble to obtain it
in Canada, then try to smuggle it into the United States? Why not obtain it or make it once safely inside the US Border?

Why nitroglycerin at all? Well, the name has instant audience recognition, that's for sure. Everybody watching the news knows what nitroglycerin is and does; that's
why the movies make so much use of it in adventure stories. It's a dramatic convention everybody understands. You hear the word

In real life, nitroglycerin is not widely used. It's unstable stuff. Any sudden bump can set it off. So can a sudden change in temperature. Like freezing. Like it's
doing in Canada right now in the dead of winter. Great to increase the sense of danger in a movie script, but not really very practical.

Nitroglycerin has long been replaced by far more stable (read safe) materials such as Semtex, equally destructive, easier to hide (it doesn't require bottles), and not
likely to explode if your car hits a pothole on the drive from Montreal to Vancouver, as Ahmed Ressam is alleged to have done.

But assuming that Ahmed Ressam really DID drive from Montreal to Vancouver in the dead of winter without a bump (and if you believe that I have a Casio watch
to sell you), he could have put the nitro inside a bunch of gas cans with false tops, explained that he was worried about Y2K shortages if the cans were seen in his
trunk, and probably gotten through.

It was those timers that nailed him. Casio watches glued to a circuit board with a 9-volt battery. Four of them. No possible innocent explanation for those.

Why did he even have them? Casio watches are easily purchased here. Radio shack has circuit boards and batteries and soldering irons. In the movies, the audience
will just accept a plot device that the evil bad terrorist is caught at the border with home made timers, but in real life, don't you have to wonder why this man tried to
cross the border carrying such incriminating devices, when those devices could have been built inside the United States in about 15 minutes with about $25 worth
of parts?

Ahmed Ressam, so the story goes, came over on a slow ferry from Vancouver to Washington State. Again, fine drama. Long hours on the water in the "no-man's
land" between national borders, trapped on the boat with his nemesis, the US Customs agents. The tension so thick you can cut it with a knife. Insert ominous
music here.

In real life, why would Ahmed Ressam choose a ferry, which gave the US customs agents the maximum amount of time to observe him, talk to him, examine his car
and it's contents. A real terrorist would have simply driven through the border crossing at Vancouver. I've been through there myself dozens of times. Show the
passport, declare the maple candy, and you're on your way. Anyone can fake being relaxed for 5 minutes. But for hours on a ferry? Sure. Right.

The story of Ahmed Ressam would make a fine movie. It has all the necessary elements to create a story about an evil terrorist villain nabbed at the border. But
what works in a movie doesn't work in real life. Casio watch timers that have to be props because Ahmed Ressam didn't really need to smuggle them into the
country, a supposed drive from Montreal to Vancouver in the dead of winter with a trunk full of nitroglycerin, and a crossing by the slowest means possible to give
the US Customs agents plenty of time to act, and it turns out, they got a phone call telling them to look for Ahmed Ressam ahead of time, which makes the arrest
easier (and the highly theatrical awarding of those medals to the Customs agents seem rather silly).

Since this little mummery went down, the media has provided the requisite background to prove that Ahmed Ressam was a known terrorist while in Canada, while
never explaining that if Canadians knew he was driving around Canada with Casio watch timers and a trunk full of nitro why the Canadians didn't arrest him.
Bombs are illegal in Canada. Guns even more so.

The story of Ahmed Ressam fits right into the image of a terrorist we've all been conditioned to expect from dozens of terrorist movies over the last few years. And
therein lies its problem. The story of Ahmed Ressam fits the movie image of a terrorist but it doesn't seem to fit real life very well at all.

Then there was the arrest in Vermont. Nicely timed to keep the "terrorism threat" fresh in everyone's mind. The same US Customs service that lets a zillion illegal
immigrants through our borders every year (to be then registered as Democratic voters) somehow manages to nail this one guy coming across the border, with the
implication that, being Algerian, he is associated with the man in Vancouver.

Now, stop listening to propaganda and think for a moment. If you were sending a dozen terrorists into the United States for a coordinated attack, wouldn't you have
them all cross the border at the same time? That way, if one is arrested, the resulting increase in security at the border doesn't affect the rest of the team, who have
already gone through before the alarm is spread. A far greater percentage of your assets will get through if you send them all through various border points at the
same time.

If, on the other hand, you send your assets through one at a time, all it takes is one arrest to severely erode the chances for a successful mission. What makes for
good drama and media saturation makes for bad operations.

Now there is a van of explosives in Washington DC, not unlike the one that we were assured took down the Murrah Federal Building. We are being asked to
believe that the US authorities, who can't stop several billion dollars worth of drugs from pouring into our nation every year; the same US authorities who had an
informant INSIDE the group that bombed the World Trade Towers and still allowed that to happen, has located the one van out of an entire city with explosives in
it.

Like I said, this whole series of events reads more like the plot line of a cheap movie than real life.

For months now, and certainly in the last few days, the media has been screaming "terrorist threat" and "Osama Bin Ladin" as hard as they can, creating a sense of
hysteria and panic, conditioning Americans to a knee-jerk readiness to accept the designated scapegoat for anything that might be happening. Let's be honest; if the
government really wanted to end the threat of terrorism against Americans, they would tell the CIA to quit screwing around with other people's countries and the
terrorists would go home! You and I walk around exposed to bombs because our government can't keep its hands in its own pockets. Having a few family
members blown up is just part of the cost of keeping oil prices down.

If the BBC is to be believed, Osama bin Ladin has been denied phone, FAX, and email services by his Talaban "hosts". http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_573000/573702.stm

So here is something to think about as the media fans the flames higher; if Ahmed Ressam was such an obvious fake, just how real is the claim that any coming
attack has to be the work of Osama?

Because sometimes, our government WANTS bombs to go off.

Remember THIS "blast" from the past?

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T H E N E W Y O R K T I M E S

* * * * *

Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1

"Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart
Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast"

By Ralph Blumenthal

Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building
a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center,
and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting
harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after
the blast.

The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb
and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by
an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer,
Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said.

The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of
hours of tape recordings that Mr. Salem secretly made of his
talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as
being in a far better position than previously known to foil
the February 26th bombing of New York City's tallest towers.

The explosion left six people dead, more than a thousand people
injured, and damages in excess of half-a-billion dollars.
Four men are now on trial in Manhattan Federal Court
[on charges of involvement] in that attack.

Mr. Salem, a 43-year-old former Egyptian Army officer, was used
by the Government [of the United States] to penetrate a circle
of Muslim extremists who are now charged in two bombing cases:
the World Trade Center attack, and a foiled plot to destroy
the United Nations, the Hudson River tunnels, and other
New York City landmarks. He is the crucial witness in the
second bombing case, but his work for the Government was
erratic, and for months before the World Trade Center blast,
he was feuding with the F.B.I.

Supervisor `Messed It Up'

After the bombing, he resumed his undercover work. In an
undated transcript of a conversation from that period,
Mr. Salem recounts a talk he had had earlier with an agent
about an unnamed F.B.I. supervisor who, he said,

"came and messed it up."
"He requested to meet me in the hotel,"

Mr. Salem says of the supervisor.

"He requested to make me to testify, and if he didn't
push for that, we'll be going building the bomb with
a phony powder, and grabbing the people who was
involved in it. But since you, we didn't do that."

The transcript quotes Mr. Salem as saying that he wanted to
complain to F.B.I. Headquarters in Washington about the
Bureau's failure to stop the bombing, but was dissuaded by
an agent identified as John Anticev.

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Hitler was elected to be Chancellor of Germany by the German people. But his rise to unquestioned Fuhrer resulted from numerous incidents which today would
be called terrorism, culminating in the burning of the Reichstagg. Hitler demanded extraordinary powers to deal with the "National Emergency". The German
people, to their everlasting shame, agreed.

After he became Fuhrer, the terrorism did stop (except that which was leveled against the Jews) because it had been Hitler's Brown Shirts that had caused all the
ruckus, to justify Hitler's power grab. His reward to the Brown Shirts was death, murdered en masse during the "Night of The Long Knives", which taken together
with four dead fund raisers in more recent times, should serve as a warning to those who blindly follow ruthless leaders.

Hitler then took some prisoners, dressed them in Polish uniforms and had them shot just inside the border from Poland. Instant "vanquished attack", and Hitler had
his excuse to invade Poland, launching the most deadly war in human history.

History shows that such swindles, with genocidal results, are indeed perpetrated by governments against their own people.

This brings us to Bill Clinton, who managed to finagle a way to stay Governor of Arkansas longer than was allowed under that state's Constitution. There is no
reason to assume that Clinton is not equally ambitious about hanging onto the White House, and the power needed to keep the cover-ups in place on some very
nasty stuff!

Of course, just as Hitler needed to make his rise to power appear to be legal, so too would Clinton need at least the illusion of legitimacy in any extension of his
term in the White House, and under the present Constitution, the only "legal" means to do so is by way of a National Emergency, real or otherwise.

A recent online poll showed that 76% of respondents viewed covert elements of our own government as the most likely source of terrorism inside the United States
during Y2K.

If, perchance, a new Reichstagg Fire is being planned by such covert elements, there is no better deterrent than an informed and skeptical public, aware of past
media lies and government hoaxes, and willing to question the official view of events.

Please feel free to repost this article.
 
I am looking forward to this coming year!

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John/az

"The middle of the road between the extremes of good and evil, is evil. When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
 
Can you say "Screen Pass"?

Sheesh! This thing reads like a bad Austin Powers flick.

I gotta admit, I hadn't really thought of the operations end of it, but, yeah, any terrorist was already in country, probably around Thanksgiving, sitting down hand having a turkey dinner... later unpacking his explosives.

Well, I do hope these were the only guys, but I have this nagging feeling that they weren't.

Oh, well. I'll be waiting at home, watching the news to see what happens.

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I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - RKBA!
 
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