How it was made - Uberti
- Thread starter Khumanos
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Hunter Customs
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Khumanos, thanks for posting the video.
I have a Cimarron Uberti, fit and finish is excellent in all aspects, with one of the nicest trigger pulls I've ever seen right out of the box.
It's fast became my favorite SA revolver, I plan on deer hunting with it this year.
Best Regards
Bob Hunter
www.huntercustoms.com
I have a Cimarron Uberti, fit and finish is excellent in all aspects, with one of the nicest trigger pulls I've ever seen right out of the box.
It's fast became my favorite SA revolver, I plan on deer hunting with it this year.
Best Regards
Bob Hunter
www.huntercustoms.com
Driftwood Johnson
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Howdy
The good things about the video is you get a good look at how the frame is hammer forged from a red hot ingot, and views of the progressive stages in CNC machining the frame to finished contours. They show how the frame, trigger guard and backstrap are polished as one assembly so all the faces match.
However, the narration makes several errors. The hardening process as shown is not Case Hardening. Case Hardening is a labor intensive process infusing extra carbon into the surface of the steel in a furnace. What is shown is an alternative, chemical bath method to impart some hardness and color, but it is not true Case Hardening. I have no idea why the assembler is driving the collet into the cylinder with a hammer, it should be a slip fit and should pop in and out of the gun easily. The narration confuses the ejector rod assembly with the cylinder pin. And proof loads are not 3 times as powerful as standard loads, they are generally in the range of 1 1/3 to 1 1/2 times as powerful as SAMMI Max loads.
One other interesting point is the way the barrel is screwed into the frame. Colts use tapered threads, you can't twirl the frame onto the barrel like that. The tapered threads are what lock the barrel in position so it does not back out. The replica companies do not use tapered threads. A thread locker is used to keep the barrel from unscrewing.
The good things about the video is you get a good look at how the frame is hammer forged from a red hot ingot, and views of the progressive stages in CNC machining the frame to finished contours. They show how the frame, trigger guard and backstrap are polished as one assembly so all the faces match.
However, the narration makes several errors. The hardening process as shown is not Case Hardening. Case Hardening is a labor intensive process infusing extra carbon into the surface of the steel in a furnace. What is shown is an alternative, chemical bath method to impart some hardness and color, but it is not true Case Hardening. I have no idea why the assembler is driving the collet into the cylinder with a hammer, it should be a slip fit and should pop in and out of the gun easily. The narration confuses the ejector rod assembly with the cylinder pin. And proof loads are not 3 times as powerful as standard loads, they are generally in the range of 1 1/3 to 1 1/2 times as powerful as SAMMI Max loads.
One other interesting point is the way the barrel is screwed into the frame. Colts use tapered threads, you can't twirl the frame onto the barrel like that. The tapered threads are what lock the barrel in position so it does not back out. The replica companies do not use tapered threads. A thread locker is used to keep the barrel from unscrewing.
I've seen it before, but never noticed some things.
The screwdriver used by the "technician" is of square stock steel that has been twisted and then ground.
They use a wood block as a lever to tighten the frame onto the barrel. That works, but it could also warp the frame (which is why we have action wrenches here in America).
The screwdriver used by the "technician" is of square stock steel that has been twisted and then ground.
They use a wood block as a lever to tighten the frame onto the barrel. That works, but it could also warp the frame (which is why we have action wrenches here in America).
Uberti takes several shortcuts, some of which are illustrated.
This is partially why the price difference between them & Colts is so great.
The Peacemaker is an expensive gun to build, AS COLT DOES IT.
It'd be very informative if Colt was able to produce a short documentary on the current Model Ps, people might understand a little better what goes into them & why their prices are so high.
And it isn't just "Buying the Colt name".
Denis
This is partially why the price difference between them & Colts is so great.
The Peacemaker is an expensive gun to build, AS COLT DOES IT.
It'd be very informative if Colt was able to produce a short documentary on the current Model Ps, people might understand a little better what goes into them & why their prices are so high.
And it isn't just "Buying the Colt name".
Denis
Driftwood Johnson
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Because of the straight threads the Italians use, it does not take very much torque to tighten the barrel in a replica. The piece of wood will not spring the frame, he is not torquing it very hard. The tapered threads that Colt uses are a different story. More torque is needed to tighten the barrel on a Colt because the tighter the barrel is screwed in, the more the threads deform. Just like pipe threads. That's why torquing a Colt barrel on without a fitted wrench can spring the frame on a Colt.
P.S. Just checked Kuhnhausen. 1st and 2nd Gen Colts had tapered barrel threads. Current 3rd Gen production uses straight, non-tapered threads.