Finally picked up my first Glock.It is a model 35.I was showing it to my neighbor and as he was handing it back to me it slipped out of my hand and hit the concrete.I was sick.The only thing I could see was a little mark on the frame.How durable are these guns.Could I have cracked the frame.It was a sleepless night last night.
How duralble are Glock pistols?
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Goat, Don't think you have a thing to worry about.
I'm not a big Glock fan but I carried one for 7 years & never had one problem (Just could never pratice enough to get to like their trigger system). I also know at least a dozen others who also carry / use Glocks. I have seen their guns go through .... , well just about everything imaginable and come up battled scarred but shooting fine.
About the only thing I have seen "kill" a Glock is if the clip gets damaged, but there replacable. Of course a damaged or bad clip is the # 1 cause of failure in any auto-loader.
Enjoy your new toy, k
I'm not a big Glock fan but I carried one for 7 years & never had one problem (Just could never pratice enough to get to like their trigger system). I also know at least a dozen others who also carry / use Glocks. I have seen their guns go through .... , well just about everything imaginable and come up battled scarred but shooting fine.
About the only thing I have seen "kill" a Glock is if the clip gets damaged, but there replacable. Of course a damaged or bad clip is the # 1 cause of failure in any auto-loader.
Enjoy your new toy, k
Marko Kloos
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Don't sweat it. Glocks are the toughest and most durable handguns in existence, IMHO. They are also the most scratch- and nick-resistant guns on the market, thanks to the pebbled polymer frame and the incredibly tough Tenifer finish. I have never owned a pistol less prone to scratch or perspiration damage. As far as the frame goes...it may look like it won't take much, but the polymer has steel inserts and is by itself stronger and more flexible than either steel or alloy. A Glock can take punishment that would crack a lot of metal frames.
Durable is an understatement where Glocks are concerned. I know of one Glock whose frame was sliced into by a farm implement. It still shot fine, and would probably have continued to do so indefinitely. The owner didn't like the looks of his ventilated pistol, however, so he sent it to Glock, which replaced the frame at no charge.
Eric Blair
New member
In the past when people asked about my Glock, I'd just unholster it, unload it, and toss in on the ground. Didn't matter if it was concrete, gravel or whatever.
To make a point once, I let my G27 be used as a hockey puck in a street hockey game.
I should note at this point, my g27 is my daily carry gun, and has quite a bit of "wear". It gets holstered and unholstered 3 or 4 times a day, and has for YEARS. The slide shows the ware. I wear my Glock while bike riding, working out, whatever. Let the sweat soak the darn thing, don't wipe it off, clean it in the dish washer once every two years. Never a problem.
So, my glock isn't the prettiest, but it works fine! (every time, I'd bet my life on it.)
So, getting back to tossing/dropping it. Two things to remember.
The sights aren't polymer, they are plastic. And that sucks. The sights WILL get dinged, and messed up. I keep meaning to replace mine with metal sights, or something else.
Second thing. If it slips from your hand, let it drop to the ground. It will not fire if it hits the ground, but if you try to grab it as its falling and a finger/thumb gets in the tigger guard, the glock will function as designed.
Eric
Owner of a two G19's, G21, G26, G27 and G30.
btw: I'm not a total bigot, I actually perfer the look and feel of my SIG's, but they just aren't as rugged. (They rust, scratch, etc.)
To make a point once, I let my G27 be used as a hockey puck in a street hockey game.
I should note at this point, my g27 is my daily carry gun, and has quite a bit of "wear". It gets holstered and unholstered 3 or 4 times a day, and has for YEARS. The slide shows the ware. I wear my Glock while bike riding, working out, whatever. Let the sweat soak the darn thing, don't wipe it off, clean it in the dish washer once every two years. Never a problem.
So, my glock isn't the prettiest, but it works fine! (every time, I'd bet my life on it.)
So, getting back to tossing/dropping it. Two things to remember.
The sights aren't polymer, they are plastic. And that sucks. The sights WILL get dinged, and messed up. I keep meaning to replace mine with metal sights, or something else.
Second thing. If it slips from your hand, let it drop to the ground. It will not fire if it hits the ground, but if you try to grab it as its falling and a finger/thumb gets in the tigger guard, the glock will function as designed.
Eric
Owner of a two G19's, G21, G26, G27 and G30.
btw: I'm not a total bigot, I actually perfer the look and feel of my SIG's, but they just aren't as rugged. (They rust, scratch, etc.)
There is something I don't understand here. How is it that a gun that is so strong is so sensitive to hot loaded ammo. I am not going to say what I own and carry because I don't want to get in to a which is better argument. I can say that the other semi-autos I own will shoot anything with in reason. A gun gets much more abuse from the inside then it does on the outside (if it doesn't you need to practice more). Wouldn't it make sense for the gone to be as strong if not stronger internally?
Don't get me wrong, I am looking to purchase a 30 to match the 21 the PD is going to issue me so I'm not a Glock hater. Asside from being very overpriced they are a good gun. They do have their problems though.
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Don't get me wrong, I am looking to purchase a 30 to match the 21 the PD is going to issue me so I'm not a Glock hater. Asside from being very overpriced they are a good gun. They do have their problems though.
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Live long and defend yourself!
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I don't know that Glocks are especially sensitive to "hot loaded" ammo, although there have been expressed concerns with use of lead bullets in some Glocks. Loads for any auto pistol need to be kept within a fairly narrow range.
In any case, the ability to withstand damage from the outside and the ability to handle high pressure ammunition are two different things, and really bear no relation to one another. It is easy to imagine a gun that would withstand almost any outside blow, yet have a weak barrel or, conversely, one with a strong barrel that would be damaged easily by outside impact.
Jim
In any case, the ability to withstand damage from the outside and the ability to handle high pressure ammunition are two different things, and really bear no relation to one another. It is easy to imagine a gun that would withstand almost any outside blow, yet have a weak barrel or, conversely, one with a strong barrel that would be damaged easily by outside impact.
Jim
Just a general Glock question: I haven't experienced a misfire with my new 27 yet, but is there any way to pull the trigger repeatedly on the same cartridge when the gun fails to fire? I know that the trigger will not reset itself if the gun is dry fired. Thanks for any info.
GLOCK pistols are very durable. Some agency went as far to prove GLOCK perfection by dropping a 9mm GLOCK out of a helicopter several hundred feet to the ground. It survived the impact and fired a full magazine. However, I wouldn't make it common practice to drop your GLOCK on hard surface. If it lands on the sights, you might lose your zero, which could suck in a defensive scenario!
Walt Sherrill
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by leedesert:
There is something I don't understand here. How is it that a gun that is so strong is so sensitive to hot loaded ammo... <snip>... I can say that the other semi-autos I own will shoot anything with in reason [/quote]
I agree with Jim.
If Glocks have more problems it probably because there are a lot more Glocks.
The only ones I've ever seen or heard about having problems are the ones with unsupported chambers (ala .40 and .45) firing grossly overcharged ammo. The problems they experienced are found in any other gun which has an unsupported chamber -- as it the case with many 1911s.
Using lead bullets is a problem -- but that is true of any weapon with a polygonal barrel. (H&K has these barrels, too. Someone else, recently claimed that Baretta uses them as well. I'm not sure about THAT.)
My son, who is now a cop, used my Glock 17 when he went through his police training. He used that gun rather than the school-provided Smith autos (which were in a pretty worn state.)
They used lead ammo. We cleaned it each night to make sure the lead was out of the barrel. No problems. He shot top scores for the class.
I won't shoot lead in mine, but I'm not too worried were I to find myself HAVING to do so. (The 17 has a fully supported chamber.)
[This message has been edited by Walt Sherrill (edited March 30, 2000).]
There is something I don't understand here. How is it that a gun that is so strong is so sensitive to hot loaded ammo... <snip>... I can say that the other semi-autos I own will shoot anything with in reason [/quote]
I agree with Jim.
If Glocks have more problems it probably because there are a lot more Glocks.
The only ones I've ever seen or heard about having problems are the ones with unsupported chambers (ala .40 and .45) firing grossly overcharged ammo. The problems they experienced are found in any other gun which has an unsupported chamber -- as it the case with many 1911s.
Using lead bullets is a problem -- but that is true of any weapon with a polygonal barrel. (H&K has these barrels, too. Someone else, recently claimed that Baretta uses them as well. I'm not sure about THAT.)
My son, who is now a cop, used my Glock 17 when he went through his police training. He used that gun rather than the school-provided Smith autos (which were in a pretty worn state.)
They used lead ammo. We cleaned it each night to make sure the lead was out of the barrel. No problems. He shot top scores for the class.
I won't shoot lead in mine, but I'm not too worried were I to find myself HAVING to do so. (The 17 has a fully supported chamber.)
[This message has been edited by Walt Sherrill (edited March 30, 2000).]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JHS:
If a person reloads and 2X the powder you will blow up any handgun.
At the CCW class I took,the instructor passed around a wheelgun that blew, ammo!
I reload the .40(G35), the rounds are running 1280/155gr TMJ bullet. Brass looks fine.
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JHS, be careful about that screamer load. Wen VIC first came out with the 152 gr. LSWC for the .45, I cooked up some loads for use in my compensated Springfield that I clocked at 1266fps using WW Superlite powder. At the time, there was no data, so I just experimented, keeping an eye out for signs of excessive pressure. I saw no signs of pressure, and the load worked well. I have video of me shooting, and the recoil looks like I'm shooting a .38 Super instead of a .45ACP. However, this same load in an uncompensated gun was a real bear. Eventually, data for Superlite became available, and I discovered I was WAY over the MAX load! Needless to say, I discontinued use immediately. But there were still no signs of overpressure....the only way to really know the pressure of a given load is to use pressure testing equipment. The visible signs we are told to look for are not always reliable indicators, because they may not show up until you're WAY past the limit.
Don't even bother to ask what the load was...I destroyed my notes, I don't remember, and wouldn't tell it even if I did. Stupidity shouldn't be passed along.
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If a person reloads and 2X the powder you will blow up any handgun.
At the CCW class I took,the instructor passed around a wheelgun that blew, ammo!
I reload the .40(G35), the rounds are running 1280/155gr TMJ bullet. Brass looks fine.
JHS, be careful about that screamer load. Wen VIC first came out with the 152 gr. LSWC for the .45, I cooked up some loads for use in my compensated Springfield that I clocked at 1266fps using WW Superlite powder. At the time, there was no data, so I just experimented, keeping an eye out for signs of excessive pressure. I saw no signs of pressure, and the load worked well. I have video of me shooting, and the recoil looks like I'm shooting a .38 Super instead of a .45ACP. However, this same load in an uncompensated gun was a real bear. Eventually, data for Superlite became available, and I discovered I was WAY over the MAX load! Needless to say, I discontinued use immediately. But there were still no signs of overpressure....the only way to really know the pressure of a given load is to use pressure testing equipment. The visible signs we are told to look for are not always reliable indicators, because they may not show up until you're WAY past the limit.
Don't even bother to ask what the load was...I destroyed my notes, I don't remember, and wouldn't tell it even if I did. Stupidity shouldn't be passed along.
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Shoot straight regards, Richard at The Shottist's Center http://forums.delphi.com/m/main.asp?sigdir=45acp45lc