This may seem a little odd, but what ways are there to make a pistol jam intentionally? One might ask why. It seems this might be useful in training. A dummy round could be put in the middle of a magazine to cause an intermitent "failure" and perhaps that would be enough to go through the procedures of clearing a jam. Obviously safety would be the first concern and the second concern would be harming the firearm.
How can you make a pistol jam intentionally...
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Fred Hansen
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Do a search on the user name Wild Romanian. It would appear that he has devoted his life to FTF.
Mark IV Series 80
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The ammunition manufacturers produce ammo with some number of under-loaded rounds in each box for agency training. I think that they sell this ammo to agencies only.
If you know someone who reloads his ammo, perhaps he could make up a few rounds with a dead primer and no powder in the case.
Just don't let these "dummy" rounds get mixed-up with your carry ammo!
I would not try to hand-load some under-powered rounds - too many opportunities for bad things to happen.
-Mk.IV
If you know someone who reloads his ammo, perhaps he could make up a few rounds with a dead primer and no powder in the case.
Just don't let these "dummy" rounds get mixed-up with your carry ammo!
I would not try to hand-load some under-powered rounds - too many opportunities for bad things to happen.
-Mk.IV
- Some guns will choke on chambering the first round if you ease the slide back slowly.
- The another excellent way
to produce jams is to press the side of the slide with your thumb while shooting.
- Holding your weak hand over the ejection port (not the safest trick) will also result in nice FTEs.
Or just buy a stock, uncustomized 1911 pistol and have fun practicing.
- The another excellent way
to produce jams is to press the side of the slide with your thumb while shooting.- Holding your weak hand over the ejection port (not the safest trick) will also result in nice FTEs.
Or just buy a stock, uncustomized 1911 pistol and have fun practicing.
Probably the best way to practice clearing jams is to have a buddy set up a malfunction--eg. a double feed, a stove pipe, an empty chamber, a loose magazine. You can purposely jam his pistol at the same time. Then you both can practice clearing the jam and firing the pistol. The old tap-rack-ready drill.
I rather know that my pistol has to be intentionally placed into a malfunction scenario than know that it can do this on its own. If you can make the pistol jam at will, it's time to think about a different pistol.
I rather know that my pistol has to be intentionally placed into a malfunction scenario than know that it can do this on its own. If you can make the pistol jam at will, it's time to think about a different pistol.
don't shoot it's me
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Buy a PPK
Hold your thumb, either hand, just behind the slide when you squeeze one off. Make sure you have good insurance, don't mind the sight of blood and are fairly tolerant of pain.
I did this, unintentionally, while shooting IDPA. I fired off a couple of rounds just out of the holster at a close range target, single handed. As I brought my free hand to bear to reinforce my hold on the weapon for distance shots, I squeezed the trigger. The slide hit my left thumb and the weapon jammed (first ever with several thousand rounds through it). Fortunately, the thumb was a fair distance behind the slide on contact. It left marks on the thumb, but did not break the skin. If the thumb had been on the slide, the damage would have been a lot worse.
I did this, unintentionally, while shooting IDPA. I fired off a couple of rounds just out of the holster at a close range target, single handed. As I brought my free hand to bear to reinforce my hold on the weapon for distance shots, I squeezed the trigger. The slide hit my left thumb and the weapon jammed (first ever with several thousand rounds through it). Fortunately, the thumb was a fair distance behind the slide on contact. It left marks on the thumb, but did not break the skin. If the thumb had been on the slide, the damage would have been a lot worse.
Mike Irwin
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Give it to Wild Romanian?
Probably the best is to have friend load your magazines, putting a true dummy or even a snap cap somewhere in the mix.
Underloaded rounds can be dangerous. I have seen squib in barrel but there was enough to actuate slide so subsequent round made a mess.
Also saw case of a .40 loaded in middle of .45 mag. .40 stovepiped, lucky.
Sam
Underloaded rounds can be dangerous. I have seen squib in barrel but there was enough to actuate slide so subsequent round made a mess.
Also saw case of a .40 loaded in middle of .45 mag. .40 stovepiped, lucky.
Sam
Try loading a bunch off high primered ammo, then shooting them through a GLOCK.
I've heard from a very reliable source that this works every time. Make sure it is a striker fired GLOCK, because guns with steel frames, slides, and hammers will simply fire the high primered rounds.
Shake
(seriously, don't do this!)
I've heard from a very reliable source that this works every time. Make sure it is a striker fired GLOCK, because guns with steel frames, slides, and hammers will simply fire the high primered rounds.
Shake
(seriously, don't do this!)
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PreserveFreedom
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Just mix some of that American Ammunition in with your practice ammo. You may have a few KB's, but you will have quite a few jams as well.
malfunction drills
I agree with C.R.Sam. Using snap caps mixed with real ammo is a good solution.
For training purposes, you can set up a stove pipe by hand and practice sweeping your weak hand back to disloge the brass and rack the slide. This can be painful with sharp sights. The alternative is to tilt the weapon upside down and rack the slide.
Another good drill is to rack one round, press the mag release so that it sticks out just a little bit, and return the firearm to the shooter. After the first round, the hammer will drop on an empty chamber, and your shooter will have to tap, rack, and engage.
I don't know of any way to set up a double feed except manually.
To replicate night time failures, if you have control over the range, lightly blindfold your shooter so that he/she can see a little downrage, but not a lot. Set up the jam. Your shooter should handle all jams like a double feed under these circumstances. Of course, because of safety issues, you won't be able to do this unless you control the range.
I agree with C.R.Sam. Using snap caps mixed with real ammo is a good solution.
For training purposes, you can set up a stove pipe by hand and practice sweeping your weak hand back to disloge the brass and rack the slide. This can be painful with sharp sights. The alternative is to tilt the weapon upside down and rack the slide.
Another good drill is to rack one round, press the mag release so that it sticks out just a little bit, and return the firearm to the shooter. After the first round, the hammer will drop on an empty chamber, and your shooter will have to tap, rack, and engage.
I don't know of any way to set up a double feed except manually.
To replicate night time failures, if you have control over the range, lightly blindfold your shooter so that he/she can see a little downrage, but not a lot. Set up the jam. Your shooter should handle all jams like a double feed under these circumstances. Of course, because of safety issues, you won't be able to do this unless you control the range.