Little Buck
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Anyone know if Marlin, Winchester, or Ruger have done this or are contemplating it? Seems like a great choice to me, but don't know if the action could handle the round.
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How about the 480 Ruger in a Carbine?
- Thread starter Little Buck
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It would be nice to have the same ammo for a 480 pistol and carbine, but in addition to the pressure issue mentioned above, a lot of manufacturers probably figure that their 45-70s already provide roughly the same performance you'd get from a 480 carbine. They'd have to anticipate a reasonable demand before trying to figure out how to make the 480 work in a carbine.
I saw an article in one of the gun rags about a Marlin 1895 converted to .475GNR which is a blown out .45-70, like a longer .475 Linebaugh. The Marlin handles it well, but it has more case capacity and operates at lower pressures conducive to the 1895 action. I would presume that if the other dimensions are identical, one could fire .475 Linebaughs or perhaps .480 Rugers in the longer GNR chamber, like a .45-70 in a .45-90 chamber. I wouldn't want to be the one to find out that it won't take the higher operating pressures and back thrust of the pistol cartridges, or that the chamber walls are marred/bulged by firing said ammo in a longer chamber. Perhaps with less than max loads, but then you may as well load the .475GNR down.
As swsurgeon mentioned, the .480 Ruger won't really do anything a properly loaded .45-70 can't handle, so the impetus for the big manufacturers to create one isn't really there. Its like people who want a lever action .454 Casull. Except for the ability to chamber the same ammo in a pistol and rifle, and the "because I want one" factor (which I understand completely), there is no real advantage in having one. There is little a .454 Casull can do that a heavily loaded, but sane, .45 Colt load won't do, and no .454 loading can match a heavy .45-70 at pressures an existing levergun can withstand. Afterall, you can use a heavy .45 Colt in the .454 revolver and your .45 Colt levergun.
As swsurgeon mentioned, the .480 Ruger won't really do anything a properly loaded .45-70 can't handle, so the impetus for the big manufacturers to create one isn't really there. Its like people who want a lever action .454 Casull. Except for the ability to chamber the same ammo in a pistol and rifle, and the "because I want one" factor (which I understand completely), there is no real advantage in having one. There is little a .454 Casull can do that a heavily loaded, but sane, .45 Colt load won't do, and no .454 loading can match a heavy .45-70 at pressures an existing levergun can withstand. Afterall, you can use a heavy .45 Colt in the .454 revolver and your .45 Colt levergun.