House Votes to Limit Patriot Act Reach

dasmi

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Good for all of us. It's no one's damn business what books I buy or check out at a library. Like Nadler said, if you suspect I'm doing something wrong, get a warrant, otherwise, bite me.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/15/AR2005061501953_pf.html

House Votes to Limit Patriot Act Rules

By ANDREW TAYLOR
The Associated Press
Wednesday, June 15, 2005; 6:10 PM

WASHINGTON -- The House voted Wednesday to block the FBI and the Justice Department from using the Patriot Act to search library and book store records.

Despite a veto threat from President Bush, lawmakers voted 238-187 to block the part of the anti-terrorism law that allows the government to investigate the reading habits of terror suspects.

The vote reversed a narrow loss last year by lawmakers complaining about threats to privacy rights. They narrowed the proposal this year to permit the government to continue to seek out records of Internet use at libraries.

The vote came as the House debated a $57.5 billion bill covering the departments of Commerce, Justice and State. The Senate has yet to act on the measure, and GOP leaders often drop provisions offensive to Bush during final negotiations.

Congress is preparing to extend the Patriot Act, which was passed quickly in the emotional aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Then, Congress included a "sunset" provision under which 15 of the law's provisions are to expire at the end of this year.

Supporters of rolling back the library and bookstore provision said that the law gives the FBI too much leeway to go on "fishing expeditions" on people's reading habits and that innocent people could get tagged as potential terrorists based on what they check out from a library.

"If the government suspects someone is looking up how to make atom bombs, go to a court and get a search warrant," said Jerold Nadler, D-N.Y.

Supporters of the Patriot Act countered that the rules on reading records are a potentially useful tool in finding terrorists and argued that the House was voting to make libraries safe havens for them.

"If there are terrorists in libraries studying how to fly planes, how to put together biological weapons, how to put together chemical weapons, nuclear weapons ... we have to have an avenue through the federal court system so that we can stop the attack before it occurs," said Rep. Tom Feeney, R-Fla.

Last year, a similar provision was derailed by a 210-210 tie tally after several Republicans were pressured to switch their votes.
© 2005 The Associated Press
 
...and wiretaps and video cameras in every home are also useful tools for finding terrorists... :barf:

At least the politicians are proving they have at least a little sense.
 
Did The House really display some guts, for a change?

President Bush threatens a veto of this legislation. Interesting isn't it, that he didn't raise a peep re the Anti Freedom of Speech provisions inherent in The Campaign Reform Law, so-called.
 
How in the world did I find myself on the same side of an issue with the ACLU?

Patriot Act? Who came up with that name? What a great spin doctor he is!

It's not about Patriotism, it's about giving up Constitutional Rights for a problem that actually kills far far far fewer people than automobiles do.
 
How in the world did I find myself on the same side of an issue with the ACLU?
I've asked myself the same question today. The answer, near as I can tell, is we've been betrayed by both parties. Up is down, down is up, the ACLU isn't wrong this time, etc.
 
- - - that boy aka skeetin'870 checked out a gun book. Well there is another person for the fly list. - - - he checked out a movie on islam lets move in.
"hey can I help you."
"F.B.I get on the ground"
"If you can read this please tell them im not a ....
 
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House Votes to Limit Patriot Act Reach

In other news today the State had their Hanes hitched up tight. One Elitest was quoted: "How are supposed to find everyone guilty of something - if we cannot get laws that make everyone guilty of something? I mean that totally screws up up our plans of control...
 
The whole pretext was absurd from the beginning. Anyone who had set their collective, well-funded and organized minds to "destroying America" at least 4, 5 or more years ago does not have to suddenly go into libraries gathering material. If the government storyline is to be believed, they had all this many years ago. Just as they are not going to be yapping about what they are going to do in monitored e-mails or over a telephone.
 
Myself and many others caught pure hell for admitting we were voting third party this last time, and not for Bush. You couldn't explain it to the close minded people why Bush was not going to do good with freedom. Now, I laugh when I hear the Bush bots crying.
 
Don't kid yourself. The library thing was only a token concession. Bush asked for it all only as a starting position and to allow opposition to think they won some points.

Let's see what the Senate does with it.
 
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