I was looking for data for a Hornady XTP 300 grain .45 Colt load and my Lyman manual lists nothing while the Lee Manual lists some anemic loads.The Lee "Ruger Only" load is moving a whopping 710 FPS. I'm not trying to rival a .500 S & W, but surely there is some data that could push the bullet to 1000 FPS. I have a load for some 300 grain Sierra JSP's using H110 that will hit around 1100 fps. Couldn't I use that same load on the XTP's? They are both jacketed and both 300 grains. I have seen this load published on Handloads.com for the XTP, but am always leery about information online. Is there another manual out there with more comprehensive .45 Colt data?
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Hornady XTp 300 grain load
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45Colt_Man
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Hornady 8th Edition page 1013 has Ruger only loads from 1050 to 1300fps using Win296 same as H110.
17.9grs = 1050 min load
18.7grs = 1100
19.4grs = 1150
20.2grs = 1200
21.0grs = 1250
21.7grs = 1300 max load
Dana
17.9grs = 1050 min load
18.7grs = 1100
19.4grs = 1150
20.2grs = 1200
21.0grs = 1250
21.7grs = 1300 max load
Dana
I don't shoot jacketed bullets in the .45Colt; nothing wrong with that but I really don't have any use for that type of load. I do load a home cast 265 grain SWC over 18 grains of 2400 for 1250fps in my Ruger OM BlackHawk. That's my normal load for everything and it's been used for everything, too.
I was looking for data for a Hornady XTP 300 grain .45 Colt load and my Lyman manual lists nothing....
Just curious, if you were looking for data specific to the Hornady XTP, why didn't you look at Hornady data??? While I don't have the latest manual, Lyman has, from the distant past on up, not been particularly bullet specific. Not by maker, only by weight. And, few of the old manuals even list any 300gr slugs for the .45 Colt, and if they do, its a cast slug.
The data from the Hornady 8th that was posted is the same as I have in the Hornady 7th edition, exactly.
However, the test gun used was a 10" Contender, not a 7.5" Ruger, so expect a little less MV if you're shooting the Ruger.
Lee Manual data is Hodgdon's data. Lee tests nothing themselves.
You do not need bullet specific data. Any jacketed data will do for an XTP. However, if you use Ruger's, Freedom Arms and T/C data in any other firearm you risk what's known as a catastrophic failure. AKA a KABOOM.
The "Ruger Only" load is running at a max pressure of 28,500 to over 30,000 CUP. They are not for use in any .45 Colt but Ruger's, Freedom Arms and T/C firearms. Standard loads run under 14,000 CUP or PSI. And all the data was tested in a 7.25" barrel.
Kind of suspect any 300 grain load will be somewhat anemic. Big heavy bullets tend to be that way.
You do not need bullet specific data. Any jacketed data will do for an XTP. However, if you use Ruger's, Freedom Arms and T/C data in any other firearm you risk what's known as a catastrophic failure. AKA a KABOOM.
The "Ruger Only" load is running at a max pressure of 28,500 to over 30,000 CUP. They are not for use in any .45 Colt but Ruger's, Freedom Arms and T/C firearms. Standard loads run under 14,000 CUP or PSI. And all the data was tested in a 7.25" barrel.
Kind of suspect any 300 grain load will be somewhat anemic. Big heavy bullets tend to be that way.
They are not for use in any .45 Colt but Ruger's,
Need to add, they are NOT for use in ALL RUGERs!!!!
The "Ruger Only" loads were developed at a time when there was only ONE Ruger in .45 Colt, the Blackhawk (and new model Blackhawk) with the large (.44 size) frame.
The Ruger VAQUERO is also suitable for "Ruger Only" loads, as it has the same size large frame as the Blackhawk.
The Ruger NEW VAQUERO is a smaller framed gun, and is NOT suitable for the "Ruger Only" level loads.
Note carefully the difference in the names. VAQUERO and NEW VAQUERO.
They are NOT the same gun, and they both have the name on them, left side, under the cylinder window.
The name "Ruger Only" has stuck with the heavy level loads, but Ruger has since moved on to produce smaller, not as strong .45 Colt guns (NEW VAQUERO) that are not made to take the heavy loads.
and FYI, Ruger NEVER approved any loads over SAAMI spec for use in their guns. Ruger Only loads are something handloaders came up with, and have never been sanctioned by Ruger for use in their guns.
Hodgdon manual of a few years back-2014? listed the 300gr XTP with up to 24.0 gr of H110. Ive been using 23.2gr in Starline cases. Im using this in a 5 1/2" Redhawk and a Rossi "Puma" 20". Ive never chronographed the load in the Redhawk, but from the 20" Puma its right at 1700fps. In the Redhawk ,deer just kind of settle down into their tracks and expire. Its not a load you want to shoot all afternoon as the recoil is quite noticeable. Another good combination is VV N110(dont know why they gotta use the same numbers). The working load is around 18.0 gr. Better research this a bit, I dont have my notes available at the moment. These loads are about 10% more potent than the 44mag.
As mentioned make sure your using the right handgun for any of these loads.
As mentioned make sure your using the right handgun for any of these loads.
disseminator
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^^^^^^ They use the same numbers across manufacturers to indicate the powders burn rate. IE; there are several different manufacturers of 4350 powder. They are very similar but do vary so they need there own load data and work up etc.
black mamba
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20.0 gr. of H4227 is a very accurate load in my Bisley, at just under 1100 fps. Recoil isn't too bad, either.