Holy Spit! You guys watching this? Gore is leading in pop vote, Bush barely has FL!

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DerGlockenpooper

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Gore has just taken the lead in the popular vote, and Bush only has a lead in Florida by about 200 votes!!!
Out of over 100 million national votes, they are neck and neck right now.

This is unreal!

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This is getting ugly!

Now at least 3000 Democrat voters from Florida are calling in and complaining that they accidentally voted for Buchanon because the ballot was configured poorly. They say that they are going to rally tomorrow and demand to be able to vote again.

And, military people are complaining that they never got their absentee ballots. (Military people are generally on OUR side, so that matters to us and it is possible that the Dems wanted to make sure the military people's absentee ballots were "lost" in the mail).

Is this ever really going to be settled?

I have a feeling that no matter who wins, the losing side will think they were ripped off, and things are so tight now, I wonder if any side is ever going to concede defeat? Will this go to a high decision? A re-vote? What do you do with the people that say they didn't get their ballots, or others who say they marked their ballot wrong (idiots Dems can't even fill out a ballot correctly)?



Not only that, but the Repubs vowed that if they took the popular vote, but lost the electoral vote, they would take it to the highest courts and fight it.
Well...now the tables may be turned: it looks like Gore will take the popular vote but lose the electoral vote by a smidgin, and even at that the votes in Florida are sketchy. Is Gore going to fight this loss in court?
What the hell is going on? I don't think this will really be over for a long time.

What if neither side concedes defeat? Civil war? (Okay, I really doubt that would happen, but still...)

On that note...if some turn of events, or a court decision or whatever puts Gore into the Presidency under such sketchy circumstances (after Bush was announced the winner), how many people are going to take to the streets in anger? It could get real ugly before it is over.




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I hope, I pray, that this stupid election will finally drive Congress to do what they've ducked for years, and do something about ballot fraud. How many states were on the edge until a sudden surge of absentee ballots? And that's how you steal elections, folks, with absentee ballots!

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I already hear the media poisoning the water and asking the question that "if the person with the most votes (popular vote) loses, then shouldn't the electoral vote be overridden and the popular vote be used to determine the winner?"

Hm, I never heard them say that before, when a Repub was winning, or when Bush was forecasted to take the popular vote and lose the electoral.

Not 5 minutes after Gore took the lead in the national popular vote, the media was saying that "the candidate with the highest popular vote should rightfully win". Biased bastards.


I can't believe these muther ****ers. Every five minutes now they are talking about how the Congress will be called to get rid of the electoral college and only go with the popular vote. How come they never mentioned this in so many years, until five minutes after their golden boy is losing the electoral? Arg!





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And, of course, Carnahan, losing in the rest of Missouri, pulls off a last minute win due to a sudden surge of absentee ballots in St. Louis county. Where have we heard that story before? About the only bright side to this is that THIS time they have to certify the election results, or Carnahan's widow can't take office. So there WILL be the possiblity of challenging them!

Oh, well, I suppose it's appropriate, the dead voting for the dead.

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Sic semper tyrannis!
 
Reprinted from Chaz at Glocktalk:


Well, Here's an interesting tidbit for you guys to mince on... http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/8/31510.shtml
Jim Collier's Ghost and Voter Fraud in South Florida

Christopher Ruddy

Wednesday, Nov. 8, 2000 4:21 a.m. EST

As I sit here in the middle of the night and find out the vote is closer than anyone imagined in Florida, I am being visited by the ghost of Jim Collier.
Jim and his brother James wrote a wonderful book called "Votescam" detailing the rampant voting fraud that regularly took place in South Florida.

In 1998, Miami became the center of controversy when a state court removed the sitting mayor because of voter fraud.

But the Colliers were writing about the corrupt voting practices there a decade earlier.

Guess who voter fraud flourished under when the Colliers investigated this abuse?

Janet Reno, who, as the state attorney, served as Miami's chief law enforcement officer.

The Colliers revealed in their 1992 book how they uncovered preprinted voter ballots in a warehouse rented by a Miami political candidate.

Following the advice of their editor, they seized the evidence and took the illegal ballots to the State's Attorney, Janet Reno. Incredibly, Reno had the journalists arrested, rather than investigate how a candidate had preprinted ballots in his possession.

Such is the way political life in South Florida is conducted.

I have no hard evidence that voter fraud took place in South Florida, but there are some clues.

Key Democratic precincts held back turning in their final tallies until the bitter end.

The same thing happened in Mayor Daley's Chicago in 1960 when, in the wee hours, votes were manufactured.

Another bad sign are claims that some voting districts in South Florida had 90 percent turnout. Where do people vote in such numbers?

This suggests that people who didn't turn up to vote voted anyway, but they didn't know it. Get my drift?

One thing I know for sure is that the late Jim Collier is climbing on the rafters.

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