Holster for Bobbed Revolver?

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Model12Win

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Hey all! I've got me a nice S&W Model 64 DAO revolver. Here it is:

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As you can see, the gun doesn't have a hammer spur. This has made finding a holster for it difficult, as I prefer a thumb strap. I am looking for a duty style, police holster (probably black leather) that has a thumb strap but is made for this type of DAO revolver. So far I haven't been able to find any!

They must exist right? This revolver was used by the Brinks security company, and DAO S&W revolvers of this sort without the hammer spur were supposedly popular for police in a number of areas... so what holster did these people use? I bought a used Safariland K-frame duty holster but this model has an exposed trigger guard (not an issue unto itself) but it's thumb snap did not secure the bobbed hammer... you could pull the trigger with the gun in the holster and the hammer would drop! :eek: Obviously not good. In the meantime, I've been using an el cheapo Wal Mart BLACKHAWK! nylon holster, which is not durable and the belt loop is super cheap and junky.

Again, concealability is not my goal. This will be worn around the compound and at the range, and if at all possible I'd like to keep with the "1980s police" theme and get a leather OWB duty style holster in black to match my HKS speedloader case. I am open to custom holster makers but would prefer to stay under $100 if at all possible.

So could anyone out there point me in the direction towards this type of holster?

Thanks so much all! :)
 
you could pull the trigger with the gun in the holster and the hammer would drop!
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I imagine that could be done with hammer spur too since the straps generally aren't that tight

I'd suggest getting the type of holster you normally do, and refrain from pulling the trigger until it's OUT of the holster


A holster that covers the trigger is all you need

The strap is there to keep the gun from falling out, and not to keep it from firing
 
The Safariland had an exposed trigger, with nothing to contact the thumb strap I could pull that naked trigger and the gun would fire if it were loaded. Yes I know it might happen with a standard DA/SA hammer but only with a very strong trigger pull. Not only that but there was a good 1/2" of vertical movement as again, there was no hammer spur to "close the gap". Anything from a small branch to a tool in the garage could and would set the gun off if I used that holster. It would be totally fine if my gun had a hammer spur, but like I said it does not. The only other holster I have for it is a cheap BLACKHAWK! holster that is awful, the gun flops around and it's giving out after only a couple months of use. I want something made of quality leather for durability's sake.
 
Anything from a small branch to a tool in the garage could and would set the gun off if I used that holster.
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Then the exposed trigger is the real problem, although it's hard to imagine how you could put enough pressure on the trigger to cycle a double action without being aware you were doing it.

I'm also surprised the cylinder would turn in the holster
 
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I'm also surprised the cylinder would turn in the holster
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It certainly shouldn't. As mentioned, though, the trigger guard needs to be covered. The transfer bar inside the gun is designed to block the firing pin if the trigger's not pulled. IOW, even if a hammer spur on a DA/SA gun managed to get pulled back and fall, the gun won't fire unless your finger's on the trigger.

I use a kydex holster. They have covered trigger guards, but lack any lock or retention strap and hold the gun just fine. Get one designed for the 64/65 and that has adjusters in it and it'll hold the gun securely. Safariland and ComTac come to mind.
 
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Well the gun was so loose in the Safariland holster I bought, that it could come up and allow the cylinder to turn when the exposed trigger is pulled.

I've read about the Jay Pee NYPD holsters, very cool looking! I'm over at ebay bidding on one right now! Hopefully I win that sucker, looks really cool and should fit my needs. If it was good enough for the NYPD for their service revolvers, it should be good enough for me!
 
Why not buy the holster you want then have someone rearrange the snaps (snap) so the thumb snap is tight against the hammer. A show repair shop or someone who works with leather.
 
Cobblers are getting harder to find but I've sought them out more than once through the years to alter holsters for me with good success. I've an old TC Contender holster that fits my 7.5" scoped Redhawk marvelously and provides excellent protection for the scope from the elements by how one manipulated the leather for me.

Another thought brings to mind an older Ross Leather holster I bought once for a DAO SP101. It is a rear thumb break that works off the trigger guard rather than the hammer area. Here is a link to one shown on their site just to give you an example of what I mean.

http://www.rossleather.com/m4h-open-bottom-hammerless-field-holster-with-thumb-break-p-33.html
 
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I know you said you wanted a police holster, but maybe something like this might work.....

Cheap version....

http://www.pacificcanvasandleather.com/holsters/pcl_12_sh.htm

Higher end.....

http://www.epsaddlery.com/pc-154-15-1942-tanker-holster-3-to-5-barrels.aspx


I have the very same 64 you do, and I use the PC&L version above with it. Works great. I also have a couple of the El Paso versions as well. They cost about double the PC&L version, but you can see the difference right off.


I know you also said want a strap, but these work very well too. You may want to consider one....

http://www.safariland.com/belt-slide/model-567-custom-fit-belt-loop-holster-19852.html

I have a couple of these as well, and they work very well. No strap necessary.
 
Model12Win, the Safety Speed company, now out of business, made any number of duty style holsters that would work just fine for your needs.

A holster that does not enclose the trigger guard is NOT unsafe. A careless uses can make just about any style of holster unsafe. I used a Tom Threepersons style holster daily for 27 years and never had an A.D. Nor did anyone I worked with.

Also remember, as others have posted, a retaining strap on any holster is just that, a retaining device and not a safety device.
 
I worked for Brink's Los Angeles. Started in 1993 with a gun identical to the one pictured. Worked the "trucks" for 3 years, then into the Training div.

The holster we standardized on for that gun was the Safariland 2752. At about that same time we started to transtion to the S&W 4046 carried in either a 295 or a 6280 holster

Prior to this standardization anything the guys wanted to wear was fine. Saw some really funky stuff. Alot of front breaks, a couple of clamshells and some real CARP:eek: Im talking JUNK. I saw guns fall out as guys climbed into the truck and in bank lobbies.

When the U.S. Training division got rolling we started providing quality leather gear and got auto-pistols approved. That was a hard sell and still has not reached all the offices across the US and that was more then 20 years ago

I didnt know Brinks had sold those old 64's off. Does that one by chance have a single horizontal "scratch" across the top of the backstrap? If so it would be valuable to me
 
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J&G Sales has been selling them for a number of years now. I got mine 4 or 5 years ago for around $250. The seem to have gone up a bit last I saw them listed.
 
Thanks guys! Yeah I picked this one up from J&G Sales about two months ago for the sale price of $299, this one is a VG+ rated revolver and I love it! After some reading, I found my gun was made in 1999 and was a Brinks trade in.

I already bought two holster for the gun on ebay just yesterday, a Don Hume break front and an NYPD Jay Pee open top holster. I got both for very good prices. But, Sharkbite just let me know that Brinks used Safariland 2752 holsters, I think it would be cool to have the same holster my gun may have originally sat in so now I have a new holster to find! :D
 
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