I'm looking for any opinions on this stuff. Has anyone used this without problems? If youv'e had problems, can you briefly describe, and what type of gun. My neighbor told me this only would give me a problem when rapidly firing or when chamber got hot. Any experiances would be appreciated.
Herters .223 ( jam or no jam)
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I bought a ham can of the stuff from Cabela's once, maybe 4 years ago.
I ran it through a Norinco AK chambered in .223 and a couple of my ARs.
The Norinco (which reliably ate anything I fed it before) jammed every few rounds. Stovepipes, FTE and FTF were common. Finally I stopped shooting them through the Norinco after I had a serious FTE where the shell was stuck in the chamber of the gun and I had to use a rod to ram the shell out.
After that I ran the ammo through a DPMS AR and a franken gun AR. The DPMS fed the ammo fine... for a while. The franken AR had FTE issues from the get go.
I only got through around 200 rounds. I gave the remainder of the ammo to my buddy after he swore up and down his AR would feed it just fine. I haven't heard anything of it since nor have I purchased any of it since then.
I ran it through a Norinco AK chambered in .223 and a couple of my ARs.
The Norinco (which reliably ate anything I fed it before) jammed every few rounds. Stovepipes, FTE and FTF were common. Finally I stopped shooting them through the Norinco after I had a serious FTE where the shell was stuck in the chamber of the gun and I had to use a rod to ram the shell out.
After that I ran the ammo through a DPMS AR and a franken gun AR. The DPMS fed the ammo fine... for a while. The franken AR had FTE issues from the get go.
I only got through around 200 rounds. I gave the remainder of the ammo to my buddy after he swore up and down his AR would feed it just fine. I haven't heard anything of it since nor have I purchased any of it since then.
5.56mm, I assume?
My DR200 ate up a spam can of 500 rounds with just a few (5-10ish) misfires due apparently to bad primers.
The accuracy/consistency was about on par with Wolf, in fact I believe that the Herter's brand is just re-badged Wolf ammo.
I can get Silver Bear cheaper now, so that's what I'm feeding
My DR200 ate up a spam can of 500 rounds with just a few (5-10ish) misfires due apparently to bad primers.
The accuracy/consistency was about on par with Wolf, in fact I believe that the Herter's brand is just re-badged Wolf ammo.
I can get Silver Bear cheaper now, so that's what I'm feeding
Well, it's not sounding to good foe steel casings. Thats nice of Hansom to be detailed about that. Jopak is probally right about the wolf being disguesed as herters. It's to bad, becuase the stuff is so cheap. Anyone ever put this in rugers M or anything else. Is steel casings worse in a bolt or automatic?
Now wait up about steel casings. I've put thousands and thousands of rounds of steel cased ammo through various AK rifles and AR rifles without a hangup. I know Herters is steel cased but I'm not sure of the QUALITY of the ammo itself.
As for it being re-branded Wolf ammo I'm not entirely sure I buy that either. I've shot Wolf ammo, lots of it, through my AK rifles. Haven't had any of the issues I relayed in my previous post aside from the occasional (maybe 4 or 5 out of a thousand rounds) bad primer/failure to ignite.
This can that I got was troublesome right from the get go - and in a rifle that had previously been able to shoot anything I fed it without issue. That same rifle continued to shoot everything else I fed it without issue. Maybe I got a bad batch of ammo... who knows. I just know that the savings isn't worth the hassle to me.
I only purchase brass cased .223 now but that's because I reload now. If I didn't reload I wouldn't hesitate to purchase Wolf, Brown Bear, Silver Bear or Tula steel cased ammo.
As for it being re-branded Wolf ammo I'm not entirely sure I buy that either. I've shot Wolf ammo, lots of it, through my AK rifles. Haven't had any of the issues I relayed in my previous post aside from the occasional (maybe 4 or 5 out of a thousand rounds) bad primer/failure to ignite.
This can that I got was troublesome right from the get go - and in a rifle that had previously been able to shoot anything I fed it without issue. That same rifle continued to shoot everything else I fed it without issue. Maybe I got a bad batch of ammo... who knows. I just know that the savings isn't worth the hassle to me.
I only purchase brass cased .223 now but that's because I reload now. If I didn't reload I wouldn't hesitate to purchase Wolf, Brown Bear, Silver Bear or Tula steel cased ammo.
I'll agree with Hansam. My post wasn't berating steel cased ammo in general, or Herter's specifically. I was just relating my experience.
I still shoot steel cased ammo almost exclusively (I don't reload.)
I've found that my rifle likes Silver Bear better than Wolf, TPA, Tula, or Brown Bear; and it's only a few bucks more per 500.
My best advise it to get some boxes of several brands and try them out. Once you find one that works for you, find a bulk deal and have fun
I still shoot steel cased ammo almost exclusively (I don't reload.)
I've found that my rifle likes Silver Bear better than Wolf, TPA, Tula, or Brown Bear; and it's only a few bucks more per 500.
My best advise it to get some boxes of several brands and try them out. Once you find one that works for you, find a bulk deal and have fun
well I dont even hava a 223 yet. But I ordered 2000 rounds because it's on sale now, and things may start to become more costly or difficult to get here shortly. My thoughts are what would be the best semi 223 to buy that we think would give the less problems firing and ejecting this herters?