Help with in on J.P Sauer revolver

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BrianWV

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I was cleaning out a neighbors barn and found a revolver wrapped in an old oiled rag.
The barrel is marked J. P. Sauer & Sohn Western germany. It also has Hawes Firearms Company Los angeles California. The right side of the barrel is marked MONTANA MARSHALL. It is a 6 shot .22 cal /appx 5 1/2 inch barrel. It has the western type shell ejector.
The gun is blued and the grips are made to look like or may be stag. This is a very heavy gun.The firing pin (floating) was jammed. after a little work I corrected this and the weapon works perfectly.
Now, can anyone tell me how old this gun is?

I am guessing that the Hawes company was the importer but I can't find that they are still in business.

I have searched the web and found very little info. Apparently JP Sauer mad a lot of military weapons, but I find nothing on this revolver.
I'll try and load some pictures as soon as I figure out how.
Thanks for any info,
Brian WV
 
I would like to find one in a oily rag while cleaning out a barn. Excellent quality 22. They are full sized frames. Steel except for the gripframes. (Alloy) The grips are likely a plastic composition. I do suggest vegetable oil rubbed into them. The Hawes firm is out of business. The Hawes company imported these western styled 6 shooters into the late 60s AFAIK. These are also known as Arminius and were sold through EAA as Bounty Hunters. They should use most all of the Colt P series SAA parts. They were equipped with the rebounding firing pins and later transitioned to a Ruger licensed transfer bar safety. Hammers are quite difficult to locate. The principal area of concern is keeping the hammer screw tightened. If it becomes loose, the hammer wobbles and strikes the frame. I have seen some that had chipped away parts of the frame and rounded the sides of the hammer. They are excellent quality. Holsters for full sized Ruger Vaqueros should fit fine. They are considered orphans and priced accordingly. I generically assign $150.00 to $199.00 value. If the grips were to be genuine stag grips, they would add value. I strongly suspect they are plastic composition though.
 
I bought one just like it back around 1981 for $75. Mine had some "kitchen table" gunsmithing to the action, which resulted in "hair trigger".

It was well made and a good shooter, but the safety issues caused me to sell it later for what I paid for it.

Sounds like you made a nice find.

Joe
 
I have a Sauer/Hawes single action in .44mag that I bought new before the GCA68. I sent for it but never got the 44/40 extra cylinder that was supposed to go with it. It had a 6.5inch barrel but the front site was on crooked. My gunsmith cut it down to 5.5inch and set up a new front sight. He pronounced it "a solid sixgun". I always liked that designation. My wife uses it now-a-days for Cowboy Action Shooting when we do that. Quantrill
 
Just "rebuilt" my Hawes .357 today!!

Wow,
I just finished rebuilding my Hawes single action before Lunch and then came across this thread!
I have a nice JP Sauer and Sohns, Hawes Firearms single action, 4.5 inch barrel in .357. I shot it so much that the blue totally wore off!
It was down to the white, so went to walmart, got some casey blueing, and reblued it. I cleaned it throughly, and oiled. There were some minor tighten of parts that needed attention, and used a extractor rod out of one of my Ubertis to replace the broken extrator rod. Action is smooth and locked up tight. Pearl grips, baby!
hawes.jpg

I just found a really nice guy, Bobs gun parts, that I bough a new extractor rod and head from. He has parts for these rare guns! including the original plastic stag frips and more! He knows alot about these guns. Give him a visit:
http://www.gun-parts.com/singleactions/
I might be carrying this for my "mountain cat" CCW gun.
 
I have a real old one in .22 mag. Got it from Grandpa who was a stunt man and came out in most of the old Hollywood westerns so it only shot blanks. Its a POS though. The barrel unscrewed itself and wont stay tight. The inside are all worn out. But it sure is, purty ivory grips and all. He also has one in 25-20 someplace. I recall how awsome it was when I was a kid and gramps would do those cool fancy gun spinning and twirling tricks.
 
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