help scope slipping

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jwilson48

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have a new rifle. won't group. realized scope was slipping in rings. rings are durasight integral rings came with gun. 30-06 what is the best way to stop this problem?
 
Are you sure you matched your scope to your rings. Sounds like you've got a 1" scope and 30mm rings. While close, they aren't the same.
 
is ring lapping necessary when installing a new scope? I ask because I have yet to buy rings for my rifle and I wanted to know if I could just install my scope without lapping
 
If you have good quality rings you don't need to lap. I have tried both and really didn't notice a difference. Assuming your scope rings are quality, the biggest source of problems are the screws. I use locktite or many times just some clear nail polish and it holds fine.
 
people can diss the rings all they want. i have used them on many other guns without any problems yet. i do not believe its a ring quality problem. my last 30-06 had cheap aluminum rings that i know were not as good and they never slid. i am looking for a constructive answer please. i cannot afford lapping the rings right now as my truck seems to just be falling apart and i'm saving for my honeymoon. i have a couple months to do some trial and error before i have to have the gun anyways. my cousin also has had the same problem with b square mounts on his 12guage with turkey loads. i was wondering what the proper torque is for putting on the rings for my scope. could i just rough up the inside of the rings maybe? or would that make it worse? what about put something in there non -slip? just looking for some ideas here.
 
not pretty but..........

Take a small piece of plumbers tape, I have even used a SMALL strip of duct tape, and line a portion of the ring, and tighten as normal.
 
thanks i have been reading about using tape or liquid of some sort. usually silicon and rubber cement are the most common. as i work at a tire shop, rubber cement is readily available! have any of you used the rubber cement trick? i'll probably give it a whirl this weekend and hope for the best. thanks again.
 
I've used rubber cement on heavy recoiling rifles with good results. Spread it thin and let it dry at least over night. It has lasted many hundreds of rounds of .338 and .375 mag.
 
Blue LocTite! I've been using it for years. It's best to use when first mounting the scope but can be used after as it has a pretty good "creep" into small gaps.
 
My rings on a 30:06 had the screws down tight, so I shimmed the with black eletrical tape. When sighting it in I noticed ths scope slip back towards the rear of the gun.

I was up in the woods so I used the cardboard off a box of 22 RF. I had a screw driver and took the rings apart and carefully cut the pieces and shimmed the rings. Tightened the screws med. tight. There was still threads left. Shot it twice and it holds fine.

I used the thicker material on the rear rings, and have more elevation adjustment on the scope. It's a old Weaver 4x. Gun stays sighted so far and shots great.
 
Black electrical tape put inside each ring half should work. This will make the rings a bit tighter and provide more even contact similar to lapping. I used to do it on all my scopes to keep from marring the finish. It works.
 
One of the better rings for novice IMO is the Burris Z rings with inserts,hold well yet less likely to damage scope. I've installed lot of scopes and switched all my rings to the Burris.
 
I usually use some nail polish under the rings as I assemble.

Personally I would not buy another set of Burris Zee Rings. They come in one piece so you need to bend some really thin metal to easily take them off. If you are like me and sometimes swap scopes, chances are pretty good, you have to bend them to put them on another gun.

- Ivan.
 
Get a resin bag at a sporing goods store that sells baseball eqpt. and dust the rings w/powdered resin, install scope and tighten rings as usual. Learned this trick from an old gunsmith friend.

Regards,
hps
 
well haven't been on in a couple days so i haven't been able to check results. i went ahead and did the silicone and plan on shooting saturday. i will post back and let you guys know if it fixes it.
 
One of the better rings for novice IMO is the Burris Z rings with inserts,hold well yet less likely to damage scope. I've installed lot of scopes and switched all my rings to the Burris.
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And, here is the best answer on the thread.

These rings have the inserts; simply put the rings on a normal Weaver base, or a picatinny rail. Put in the bottom half of the insert; get your scope oriented. Install the top half of the insert in the top of the ring, install on the scope and BARELY snug the screws down. Now, square up the crosshairs and adjust the eye relief. When all is good, tighten the mounting screws.

I've used these rings for .223/5.56, .308, and .300 Win Mag. They do NOT move, will NOT mark your scope, and they will ensure 100% contact without lapping the rings in. I use them on my duty rifle, a .308 holding an 8-32 Nightforce NXS.

Try them, and you'll never use anything else.
 
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