Help me understand AL law

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Firearms are either title 2 (machine guns, silencers etc) or title 1, (all others). Class 1, 2 and 3 are FFL's that pay the SOT for importing, manufacturing and dealing. You can order and/or download forms from the ATF website here; http://www.atf.gov/forms/firearms/ Http://www.silencertalk.com and http://www.subguns.com are other good sources for info.

Have specific questions?

Ranb
 
Contact an Alabama dealer, they do it for a living and will know the AL laws, any CLEO problems where you live.

Alabama
Nick Hope - Rock Creek Gun Service

Specialties: Class 2 - Suppressors and HK work
901 Glaze Dr.
Bessemer, AL 35023
Phone: (205) 436-GUNS
E-mail: NHOPE1REMOVETHISSPAMGARD@aol.com
Homepage: N/A

Gary E. Reisenwitz
Specialties: Class 3 and Gunsmith
1958 Carter's Grove Road
Hazel Green, AL 35750
Phone: (205) 828-1695 (evenings)
Homepage: N/A
 
Step 1: Determine whether Silencers are permitted in your state.

Step 2: Make sure that you don't have anything in your background that would prohibit you from owning a registered Class III weapon, like a silencer. Felonies, history of drug abuse or alcoholism, or spouse abuse will be problems.

Step 3: Call the sheriff of the county you reside in and see if he will sign off on a "Form 4" for the transfer of a silencer to you. If he is NFA friendly, every CLEO has a different procedure for you to get a sign-off. Find out what it is. Sometimes, its as simple as giving the CLEO the form and asking him to sign. Other times, like in my case, I had to undergo a background check by my local Sheriff's department which consisted of an investigator asking questions of my neighbors and of my wife. This is in addition to the FBI/BATFE background investigation.

Step 4: Locate a Class III dealer willing to handle the transfer in your state - try to find one nearby. Talk to the dealer and tell him what your plans are for purchasing a silencer and find out his rates for handling the transfer. Either get the transfer package directly from BATFE or from your Class III dealer. Start filling out the paperwork, get your photo taken, and get your fingerprint card filled out. You won't be able to complete the application until you know the serial number of the item you are purchasing.

Step 5: Purchase the silencer and have it sent to your Class III dealer.

Step 6: Now, take your completed Form 4 to your Sheriff/CLEO (whom you've already spoken to) and submit it to him for his signature.

Step 7: Take the entire package - completed Form 4 with CLEO signature; photo and fingerprint cards done on the ones provided to you by BATFE together with a check for $200 and mail that away to BAFE for processing.

Step 8: Wait 3-5 months while your Form 4 is being processed. Don't bug them before 90 days has passed.

Step 9: When you receive your Form 4 back with your tax stamp, take it to your Class III dealer and pick up your silencer.


The biggest issue is whether your CLEO will sign off for the purchase of a silencer. That's why I recommend that one of the first things you do is talk to your CLEO. If he will not sign and if you live in a state that doesn't outlaw the ownership of registered silencers, then you can set up a trust, corporation or LLC (most folks using trusts these days) and designate the trust as the owner and you as a beneficiary of the trust - best if done by a knowledgeable lawyer, but some have done their own trusts.
 
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+1 for Nick Hope/ Rock Creek Guns in Bessemer.
I dropped of some cash and picked up appropriate ATF forms earlier today for my new 308 suppressor. Now for the waiting...

Whereabouts in AL are you located?
 
OP, please say "NFA" or "Title 2"

"Class 3" is just as erroneous as calling a clip a magazine. Any SOT payer can transact business in NFA items. The taxpayer class has nothing to do with anything.
 
MGMike said:
Guys, this may come as a huge shock, but Andalusia is not in Alabama.
The NFA does not apply there.
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It will be a surprise to the citizens of Covington County, Alabama, that their county seat isn't located there. Probably be an even bigger surprise to the 9,000 residents of Andalusia.

http://www.cityofandalusia.com/
 
Machinegun sale

Hi guys, can anyone tell me if I need to go through a class 3 dealer when selling my machinegun to someone local in my own state?
 
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