Help me to stop buying guns.

Steve Smith

New member
Ok, here's the deal. I would like to slow my gun-buying little, but I have some quasi-needs before the total shutdown. Just about every gun niche is covered in my collection, and some are covered several times, but there are some holes. I'm asking you, my friends here at TFL, for some guidance. Here's some background:

I live in Colorado, and go elk hunting every year...I have used .300WM and .338 WM. Since I have little intrest in bolt actions, I had a hard time wanting to hold on to these. When some nice battle rifles (wich I have great interest in) came along, the bolt guns were happily sold. I haven't regretted that at all, because I get tons more use and enjoyment out of a battle rifle. That being said, I don't have a "hunting" rifle now. I could use one of the battle rifles (with a DOW approved castrated mag), but I would limit myself to .308 ranges. That's not awful, but the greater range is sure nice when you have it. Here are the choices that I have for my next (last?) gun purchase. Please comment on this and add more guns to the choices if you want.

1. Sako TRG-S in 7.82 Warbird. I've been drooling about this rifle since Sako started offering it. Barrel life won't be a concern, due to my aforementioned love for battle rifles. I'll use it enough to be familiar with it, but it's not going to get worn out when there are battle rifles that I can shoot.

2. Forget having more power than a .308 and buy another FAL...an Izzy or a DSA carbine this time.

3. Ruger Super Blackhawk (w/Bisley grip frame) in .45 Colt. No, it doesn't fit in to the question, but I just like 'em.

Ok, guys and girls, don't be shy...tell me what to do here.

[Edited by Steve Smith on 02-17-2001 at 03:05 PM]
 
That's easy - forget the whole idea of stopping! :D

Face it, you've got the bug and are addicted. (battle rifles will do that) It is only a matter of time before someone comes out with something new or starts building something old so much better that you just HAVE to have one! Sorry to be a wet blanket, but you will fail in your endeavors to get on that wagon...

In the meantime, buy that Warbird and have fun with it. It'll take elk really well and you won't be cussing because that big bull was just out of the range of a clean .308 shot. It'll ease your feelings and give you something to hold onto as you try unsuccessfully, however diligently, to deny your addiciton.
 
end of spree

Steve...........
A man has GOT to know his "Limitations".
Quote from an ex President!!!!...Ha!!!
You HAVE to have at least ONE long range piece in your closest.......
Since you hunt, I'd go for a 300 WinMag, ammo is always available.......will do whatever you want with it.( hunting)
And will double as a really accurate long range piece.....
Seems your "collection", lacks this very valuable piece of hardware..........
Battle rifles are fun, but they won't get the job done past 7-900 yards..........
My .02's, with change........for what it's worth (:
 
Tshoes...I forgot to mention...I like exotic stuff...I can't help it...that's where the Warbird comes in, rather than another Remchester .300 Mag. I know if I buy another "standard hunting rifle" than it'll be too easy to sell it again, as I have done to my others. I want something that's special so that I 'll hang onto it. Sorry. :D

Keep 'em conming, guys!
 
If you really want to slow or stop buying guns, YOU'VE COME TO THE WRONG PLACE FOR ADVISE!!!!!!

And definitely stay away form the Sixgunner and Sixguns Message Boards. The standard advise there is, "Buy both of them."

I share your distain for bolt guns. What you really need is a good selection of Browning BLR's, aka M-81, lever-action rifles. They are even available in .30-'06, 7mm RemMag, and .300 WinMag, as well as short action numbers like the .308, .243, and best of them all the .358 Winchester (if you can find one of these discontinued beauties).

As an elk hunter you have a burning NEED for a Winchester/Browning M-1886 in .45-70 Gov't! Get two and rechamber one for .45-90 for a bit more horsepower.

And don't forget the newly resurrected M-1895 Winchester. It is available in .30-'06, .270 Win, and allegedly the .405 Win and .30-40 krag chamberings will be available eventually.

If you really want a bolt action hunting rifle, I think I'd pass on the Warbird, I understand it burns out barrels at an alarming rate. One smith told me that a rifle he built started loosing accuracy after less than 500 rounds. Have you considered a .375 H&H from either a Ruger M-77 MkII or a Winchester M-70 Safari Classic? Ruger also offers the classic .416 Rigby in both M-77 form and as No. 1 Single-shot.

There are simply too,too,too, too many fine guns out there ot quit buying now.

Doc Hudson
 
Bolts are not battle rifles?

A simple change of mindset may solve the problem. Pick up any of the military-history books on snipers, and you may begin to see the bolt action rifles a bit differently. They have played, and continue to play, a crucial role on the battlefield. For some missions, a finely tuned .308 or .300 mag bolt rifle and a highly skilled shooter who can do the job with one shot are superior to the spray-and-pray bullet-hoses more commonly associated with the military. Both play important roles, obviously, but IMO no collection of battle rifles is complete without a good long range bolt action rifle.

If that doesn't do it for you, then mortgage the house and get "just one last piece", say, a .50 Caliber Barrett along the M82A1 line. That will solve the long-range hole in your collection, although I'd also take up weightlifting if you plan on actually hauling it through the Rockies stalking elk! ;)

DL
 
I can relate. I've suffered from this ailment, and I know the solution. Basically, the way to cure yourself of an excessive gun buying habit is "immersion therapy". The theory behind immersion therapy is that if you buy enough guns in a short enough period of time, you will be so sick of guns you won't want to buy any more for a very long time. Over the past year, I purchased seven new rifles and handguns, and I can attest to the efficacy of this method because I really don't want another new gun.






Well, except maybe for just one itsy-bitsy M1A (but just one).



OK, maybe a .45 also, but only because I don't have one.




I'm hopeless.
 
Steve, you don't by chance work for the BNSF RR do you? That name sounds very familar! Just curious:D

Josh
 
Need guns - nuttin else

Steve, You obviously have not reached your comfort zone in the gun dept. I just reached mine and it corresponded directly with my depleted savings. Now I pray for time to enjoy them and maybe even wear a few out. So fulfill that spiritual, psychological and physical need and search out a warbird to your liking. And if you decide to go with less remember that eventually you'll get what you wanted but only at a greater cost as you were unfulfilled.
"class dismissed"!
mac
 
Long Range

I had the same problem a while ago and filled that long range void with a weatherby accumark V in 30-.378
Awesome!
 
I sympathise with ya brother! I cant really afford more, but then there's this gun show comming up in S.E. Virginia (Hampton Coliseum Feb. 24-25, Sat. 9-5, Sun. 10-4) and I want to go "just to look". The problem comes if I see a really good deal......

Let's be honest this stuff gets in your blood. The best we can do is keep it as "practical as possible". If your going to extend your-self monitarily at least get a good value for your dollar. Unfortunatly from the other posts it seems as that Sako is not the way to go.

Tell me what is an Izzy carbine? If this is a refrence to me then I should start producing them and comment in the back of any cheesy gun rag that will accept my rants!

Peace
 
Izzy...no, not an Izzy Carbine (I'm not sure if one was made) but rather a full-length Izzy. DSA carbine, possibly.

Izzy, in the FAL world, is slang for an Israeli FAL variant. Quite cool lookin' Here's some:

http://www.fnfal.com/forums/Forum1/HTML/006711.html

Others, I know, I know...I can't stop...there's just no way. My idea was to spend enough on the bolt rifle so that I wouldn't sell it off just because it's boring... (sorry bolt guys...my opinion, not gospel) Now you see, this is what you guys do to me...not only do you not help, not only do you affirm my lust for more and more guns, you also get me scheming! (Scheme of the moment: If I buy one of those Wal-Mart special Weatherby's in .300 Weatherby Mag, I'll have better range than with the Win Mag, and I can still buy
the Blackhawk...AND build the Izzy FAL with just a little more investment! (Sako TRG-S = roughly $800 + rings = $100 + scope = $400 + dies = 100 + 40 cases = $80 :eek: trigger job = $100 so right there, I've got $1600 into it, and that's with a $400 scope and only 40 cases.) However, I could build an Izzy for $1K, buy the Blackhawk for $300, and the Weatherby for $350. That puts me to $1650, and three guns. Hmmm...this scheming is addictive.

I hope you guys are happy.
 
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