Help me out, Walther P99 owners!

Mylhouse

New member
I know that got denfoote's attention! :)

A couple of quick questions:

1) Does the P99 have some sort of finish similar to Glock's Tennifer?

2) A dealer told me that the Walther is imported by three separate entities: Carl Walther, Interarms, or Earl's. The stamping on the gun will supposedly reflect this. He told me that the Carl Walther stamped guns are the authentic, more valuable ones. Is this true or a crock of B.S. sales ploy?

3) How does the accuracy compare to say Glocks, Sigs, and HK's?

4) How about the toughness, durability and reliability?

BTW, I'm ONLY interested in the 9mm version.

5) Is the stainless version more valuable than the blued?

Thanks for taking the time to erase those pesky question marks floating above my head.
 
1)slide is tennifer, frame is polymer
2)Interarms was the importer a year ago and got out of it, selling to S&W. "Carl Walther USA" is the name designated for whomever is supposed to be importing the Walthers now as I understand it. "Carl WaltherUSA" was supposed to be Interarms before they sold to S&W. Carl WaltherUSA will probably be the stamp on those imported recently so you may want to be cautious with this dealer and watch for an attempted ream job.
3)Accuracy is phenominal for the P99 in 9mm. Don't know about .40S&W
4)Durability reliability is excellent. Had my P99 over a year now and no problems. Finish is still scratch free as well.
5)Have not seen any difference in street price between blued or "stainless".
 
The QPQ finish is not stainless, but simply a silver colored slide:

"New processing technology for the QPQ allows the choice of a silver colored slide while retaining all the corrosion resistance and durability of the tenifer-finished, hardened steel. This exclusive Walther process advances the state-of-the-art beyond stainless or nickel plating. Test conditions of 20,000 rounds continuous firing, demonstrate significant resistance to wear."
 
Mylhouse,
Carl Walther USA is the (evil) entity spawned by the unholy merger of a once fine European firearms firm, and Slick and Wesson. Interarms no longer exists as far as Walther is concerned. As far as I know, all P99's cost the same, although Earl might be able to get it cheaper.
Now for the shocker. The new Glock 19 that I traded my P99 for is more accurate. I do not know if you can take a P99,and freeze it, stomp it into the ground with a Jeep, drop it into the ocean, and leave it for a few weeks,etc., and have it still fire. But you can with a Glock. :) The P99 is a very good pistol. I just could not , in good concience, own a weapon made by a company who is in league with Satan (or Klinton-same difference).

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[This message has been edited by denfoote (edited May 24, 2000).]
 
Thanks for all the information, guys. I'm glad you gave me the heads up, denfoote, before I gave cash to the traitors. My wife is going to be very unhappy. (She had her mind set on getting a P99)

:(

I guess we'll have to wait and see how the Beretta 9000 turns out. At least they haven't caved to the Antichrist in any shape or form yet (at least as far as I know).
 
Since the questins have all been answered, I would like to welcome you to the Walther Group. Pretty much everybody here hates us (our guns) and will say how their guns are better because of that or this but I love the gun, it fires reliably, I have 500 rounds through it in the past month (since I bought it) and no slide locks- my limp wristed friends fire and it locks on them- I guess it is all in the handling. I have the .40- blued tennifer. With my hands resting on sandbags, I can touch groups at 25 yrds, standing I can group okay (it's me not the gun). I have upgraded to the thickest grip (big hands) and like the trigger break soooooooo much more, but I have not fired it as of yet. I will advise in a separate post.

[This message has been edited by hube1236 (edited May 24, 2000).]
 
I don't hate the gun, I dislike the business decisions of the company who makes it. Also I was forced to reduce the value/size of my gun collection for insurance purposes. Do not for a minute think that I think that the P99 is a bad gun in any way, shape,or form.
There will be no anti- Walther flames from me!!! I might castigate the company (or his unholy child) from time to time, but not the pistol.

Hube1236: I am sending your "package" this weekend. ;)

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[This message has been edited by denfoote (edited May 24, 2000).]
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by denfoote:
Mylhouse,
Carl Walther USA is the (evil) entity spawned by the unholy merger of a once fine European firearms firm, and Slick and Wesson.
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This is not accurate. Carl Walther USA was set up after Interarms dissolved on the death of the owner. He left it to his daughter, who sold some of the inventory and the name to Champion Firearms Corp of College Station, TX. You can view the remains at:
http://www.championfirearms.com/interarms.html

The majority of the Walther inventory was sold to Earl's Repair Service in Tewksbury, MA, phone: 978-851-2656, fax: 978-851-9462.

Smith originally approached Carl Walther USA two years ago to make a licensed copy of the P99 for sales to the law enforcement market. This seemed a natural, as Walther has never targeted the American LEO community and Smith needed a good poly-framed gun to compete with Glock. The deal struck was that Walther would make the frames in Germany and sell them to Smith via Carl Walther USA, and Tomkins would buy stock in the new company (pretty much a standard deal in the import business).

Walther later was offered an importation deal with S&W (when Interarms folded) and they took it to allow them to continue importations while they jumped through the usual AFT and State Dept hoops involved in setting up a foreign arms distribution business. This was never anything but a temporary setup and Walther also set up an importation deal with Earl's Repair Service as a backup.

When S&W signed their agreement with the feds (17 March of this year), majority importations were directed through Earl, as Walther didn't want to get caught up in any legal wrangles with the feds. Earl continues to be a full-line, stocking dealer for Walther if you'd like to purchase from him.

As John Falk, Walther's rep in the US, dryly described it to me this morning, this caused something of a bottleneck in their distribution of P99s, causing the shortage that existed over the winter. Earl's a hard-working guy, but he's just one guy.

WaltherUSA (a different organization than Carl Walther USA, which no longer exists) was cleared by the feds last month to begin business in June. If you check the URL "waltherusa.com" you get a dead page - the only live link for Walther USA is still through Earl's webpage:
http://people.ne.mediaone.net/waltherusa

Beginning in June, the WaltherUSA shop will be open for business and importation of 9mm and .40 P99s will resume at full pace with their airguns, along with a "Fan Shop" for shirts and stuff. The PPK line will be discontinued by the factory as demand for that particular firearm has diminished with the introduction of other CCW arms by folks like Beretta and Kahr.

I've also asked John for a full text of the Walther statement on the S&W agreement, which should be emailed to me from Germany in the next day or so. They don't plan to go along with S&W.

So, here's the nutshell: Walther is not part of the S&W/HUD agreement. WaltherUSA is not part of S&W. Walther (both entities) will not sign the S&W/HUD agreement.

Tompkins does own stock in WaltherUSA. They also own stock in Murray Lawn Mowers (the principal brand sold at WalMart, and sold elsewhere as the MTD brand) and Airbus Industries. It that bothers you, there are several remedies if you wish to buy a P99:

1. Buy one of the Interarms-marked P99s, there are many still on the market. You can buy these from Earl, in fact, left over from the original inventory imported by Interarms. I saw one in a local shop, NIB, last week.
2. Buy a new P99 from Earl. When I asked this morning, he said he had "dozens" in inventory, on top of the remaining Interarms P99s.
3. Buy a used P99. There were 15 on gunsamerica.com when I checked today

Starting in June, Walther Germany will more than double the production rate of the P99 to meet the demand. Prices should ease a bit at that time. You can purchase one of these from Earl if you don't want to deal with WaltherUSA.

You can contact John Falk at Walther USA LLC, phone: 413-747-3443, fax: 413-747-3592 , for any other information.

I have no interest in Walther, the company, except that I own several of their handguns.

I own no S&W products and won't buy any until the company changes hands.

Regards,

Ken Strayhorn
Hillsborough NC
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Strayhorn:


1. Buy one of the Interarms-marked P99s, there are many still on the market. You can buy these from Earl, in fact, left over from the original inventory imported by Interarms. I saw one in a local shop, NIB, last week.
2. Buy a new P99 from Earl. When I asked this morning, he said he had "dozens" in inventory, on top of the remaining Interarms P99s.
3. Buy a used P99. There were 15 on gunsamerica.com when I checked today

Starting in June, Walther Germany will more than double the production rate of the P99 to meet the demand. Prices should ease a bit at that time. You can purchase one of these from Earl if you don't want to deal with WaltherUSA.
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To late.
The Walther went bye-bye.
Got Glock!!!



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