Help me decide on a 1911

Which would you pick for EDC

  • Dan Wesson Guardian 38 Super

    Votes: 5 12.8%

  • Dan wesson CCO 45acp

    Votes: 34 87.2%
  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .
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IMTHDUKE

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I can't decide between. Don't say buy both. Only want one.

Dan Wesson guardian 38 super

Dan Wesson CCO 45acp

Please pick the one you would want for EDC.
 
With EDC in mind, I would lean to the CCO mainly because it is about .5" shorter height-wise. Also, simply being pragmatic, I imagine 45 ACP is probably a bit easier to locate if that matters. That being said, I would prefer both. :D
 
I agree . Make sure you follow the lube instructions to letter These guns are tight and some have locked up be cause directions are not followed. .
Mine is a old one and they didn't have these problems Different steels used back then.
 
The 45 without a doubt.
Why hinder yourself with a chambering that is not universally available anywhere you go. Or a round that has limited selections available. Most 38 Super amko I see is either fmj, or older design hp. Yes, there is dome boutique ammo makers offering more recently designed bullets in their ammo. But why have to search for it.
 
45 ACP. If you're looking for defense. I don't see a lot of 38 Super unless people are reloading it.


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Forget the .38 Super, you'll go broke learning how to shoot it and finding ammunition. So it's the .45 in my opinion, and I'd go to Ruger for the gun, and not pay the premium on a DW. If you want to carry it for CC purposes, the alloy frame model is the way to go. Any other choice will eventually see you use it as a range toy only. Been there, done that. HTH's, Rod
 
A case of 500 rounds of 230 gr fmj Winchester at bulkammo.com goes for $179.75. A case of 500 rounds of 38 super goes for $360. You decide.
 
38 Super is more of a competition caliber and not so much for defense. You'll need to be a reloader or have a money tree if your back yard to afford the ammo.

Go with the CCO or even the ECO (which you can get in 9mm as well as 45).
 
Actually even if you don't reload ( I do though) you can buy it in bulk for cheaper than you would think. CTD has 1000 round bulk packs for 280 or 28 cents per round. If you reload, than 9mm/357SIG/38 Super can all share 355/356 bullets...I use 124 grain HP for all three.

Plus the 38 Super barrel can be swapped out for a 9mm barrel in the guardian. I have the DW Guardian in 38 Super and I truly enjoy it. It's a natural pointer and one of my favorites. Only commander sized I have kept.

so if you have your heart set on a Guardian in 38 super...I say go for it. It is a pleasure to shoot, if louder than you might think. Mine will throw brass clear across the room, so I tend to have to shoot to the right of everyone to make sure I don't plaster them with brass.
 
One answer from someone that actually owns a Super and a bunch from people that read it on the interwebz. If you already have an ECO why buy a CCO, regardless of caliber?

The Guardian gives you the advantage of a full size frame and magazines, 10+1 capacity in .38 Super. And, the Super is a fine self defense caliber, ammo is readily available and priced similarly to .45ACP. If you're smart you'll keep a stock on hand and buy extra when deals come along. Another advantage, as GoldieMI pointed out, is the easy conversion to 9mm, which let's you train with less expensive 9mm ammo and carry hotter Super loads. I have a custom 1991A1 Colt in .38 Super that is also fitted with 9mm and 9x23 Winchester barrels. I use 9mm for competition and training and either Super or 9x23 for carry. I keep a couple thousand rounds of 9mm on hand and at least a case each of Super and 9x23. That gives me the freedom to buy ammo when I want and the price is right, rather than worrying about what the local stores have in stock at inflated prices.

I've got a bunch of 1911s in .45 but my Super is one of the most versatile and fun pistols I have.



Oh, one more thing, I would never choose a Ruger 1911 over a Dan Wesson.
 
Based on the limited information in the OP I voted for the 45. However, if you already own several .45acps why not get the .38 Super just to have something different.
 
having both .38 Super and .45, I like the .38 Super. I like the .45. I would go with the .38 Super. But then I have had a soft spot for the .38 Super for years. Buy some ammunition for it in bulk and not worry about having to find it locally. You just have to plan ahead with .38 Super. Or reload. That is my path.

David
 
Buy the .45. The Super is not going to be found in small places. Of the 19 flavours of it Midway lists, most of 'em are on backorder and/or are +P.
Mind you, reloading makes that endless hunt go away. 1,000 cases runs $169.99 at Midway. Don't get snookered by the Starline "+P" brass either. That stamps are for the guys in the factory only.
 
Buy some ammunition for it in bulk and not worry about having to find it locally. You just have to plan ahead with .38 Super
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But the point is why? When 45 ACP is available in a much larger choice of bullet designs, and performance characteristics in nearly ever place you might be.
Considering the 38 Super has no real advantage performance wise over most modern designed 45 ACP loads, and availability without handloading, or extra planning is universal there really isn't a logical reason to chose the Super over the 45.
Certainly nostalgia, or uniqueness are reasons if you accept the disadvantages.:D
 
Pursuing this thread, I notice a plethora of posts that suggest the .45 based on the high cost of .38 Super ammunition. Ponder as I may, I cannot understand why anyone who owns any firearm does not handload. I went through at least 5,000 (likely more) rounds this past Spring and Summer, and never once considered the cost of my handloads. To a handloader, especially one who casts bullets, the cost of ammo does not become a factor for which gun one wants to get.
 
Of the 19 flavours of it Midway lists, most of 'em are on backorder and/or are +P. Mind you, reloading makes that endless hunt go away. 1,000 cases runs $169.99 at Midway. Don't get snookered by the Starline "+P" brass either. That stamps are for the guys in the factory only.
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All .38 Super is marketed as +P to differentiate from .38ACP for those that can't, or don't bother, to read labels.
 
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