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Help Identify .22 long rifle
- Thread starter Gottafly725
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Jim Watson
New member
Looks like a Stevens No 14 1/2 Little Scout with a store brand name.
Here is one like yours for sale. Other pictures have a plain knob takedown screw and a different breechblock contour.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...rimfire-caliber-s-n-none.cfm?gun_id=101272228
Numrich lists the firing pin but I don't know if there are two different firing pins for the different shape breechblocks.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/savstevspgfld/rifles-sav/14-12-little-scout
Jack First is out of stock on firing pins but notes "may have to be shortened from the rear." which might be the breechblock shape effect.
Frank DeHaas said it may be chambered for .22 LR but is not strong enough for any current ammo but .22 Short standard velocity. Or CB caps.
Here is one like yours for sale. Other pictures have a plain knob takedown screw and a different breechblock contour.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...rimfire-caliber-s-n-none.cfm?gun_id=101272228
Numrich lists the firing pin but I don't know if there are two different firing pins for the different shape breechblocks.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/savstevspgfld/rifles-sav/14-12-little-scout
Jack First is out of stock on firing pins but notes "may have to be shortened from the rear." which might be the breechblock shape effect.
Frank DeHaas said it may be chambered for .22 LR but is not strong enough for any current ammo but .22 Short standard velocity. Or CB caps.
Gottafly725
Inactive
Awesome Thanks for the information i will take a look at those.
Supposedly, it's an H&A Model 722. Made until about 1914. Dunno how accurate this is.
https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/72245-rolling-block-22/
https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/72245-rolling-block-22/
Jim Watson
New member
I found that but HA action screw placement is different.
Be aware that what is today considered "standard" .22LR is actually the "high velocity" load from old times, and so is not suitable for some of the old guns.
"Target" velocity ammo is better, and close to what was once the "standard" load.
"strong enough" with an old .22 isn't so much about the gun blowing up when shot but more about current higher speed ammo wearing it out fast. Alloy steels then were not what they are now, and some of the oldest guns are actually IRON with just enough alloy to be technically steel.
If you can find a firing pin it will still probably need to be fitted by a gunsmith to work properly. A good smith could make one if needed. Don't expect a "
plug and play" fit, if you get one, fine, but don't count on it.
also check the chamber were the firing pin strikes, if its peened, (from dryfiring) work may need to be done beyond another firing pin. Gunsmith time for that.
good luck
"Target" velocity ammo is better, and close to what was once the "standard" load.
"strong enough" with an old .22 isn't so much about the gun blowing up when shot but more about current higher speed ammo wearing it out fast. Alloy steels then were not what they are now, and some of the oldest guns are actually IRON with just enough alloy to be technically steel.
If you can find a firing pin it will still probably need to be fitted by a gunsmith to work properly. A good smith could make one if needed. Don't expect a "
plug and play" fit, if you get one, fine, but don't count on it.
also check the chamber were the firing pin strikes, if its peened, (from dryfiring) work may need to be done beyond another firing pin. Gunsmith time for that.
good luck
Gottafly725
Inactive
Thanks guys for the info